Re: [tdf-discuss] Addons (was: Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format)

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Charles-H. Schulz
<charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
> Hello Michael,
>
> Le Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:26:09 +0930,
> Michael Wheatland <michael@wheatland.com.au> a écrit :
>
> > On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Charles-H. Schulz
> > <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
> > > "to implement the Silverstripe CMS on Drupal.org" does not seem to
> > > mean anything to me. "With a view to go with Drupal" was rather:
> > > with the possible option of Drupal in the long term.
> >
> > Sorry, I meant to write libreoffice.org not drupal.org
>
> ah, okay.
>
> > > "a little bit of misinformation", Michael, is perhaps your
> > > enthusiasm leading to understand things the way you would like them
> > > to be :-). At this stage, I don't believe we have any clear plans
> > > to move to Drupal; there seems indeed to have been some early
> > > misunderstanding, but if you wish the SC will clarify its position
> > > (again) .  But given that I'm a member of the said SC, it might be
> > > useful to you to take my words into account.
> >
> > To make this clear in my mind I have listened and read the decision
> > statement from the Steering Committee decision.
> >
> > The conversation on the conference call:
> > "I would ask the people working on Drupal to do a more detailed
> > planning in the next month regarding additional services..."
>
> right.
>
> > There were some bits that I didn't quite understand (poor quality
> > sound), but many people voiced their opinion that we should consider
> > Drupal as the long term solution.
>
> I might repeat Cor's statements here, but "many people voiced their
> opinion that we should consider Drupal as the long term solution"
> means: many people "think we should decide whether Drupal would be a
> long term solution" . It's hardly a Steering Committee decision
> requesting the use of Drupal.
> > The statement to the website list from the SC is as follows:
> > "the CMS decision was taken: it will be Silverstripe as a starter,
> > with plans to migrate to Drupal later on."
> >
> > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.website/592
>
> "plans... later on". Not "now let's rush towards creating the
> definitive Drupal website"...
>
> > I would have thought that this official statement is very clear in the
> > outcome
>
> Obviously it is conditional, and makes clear that it's an option for
> the long term.
>
> > and the website team has had a large group of people (larger
> > than that working on the current site) working towards this end, whom
> > might I say have done a fantastic job in a very short period of time.
> > Clearly the implementation is still a few months off as we start to
> > involve Native Language teams and other functional teams.
>
> And to our great dismay, calls for help for the current website, which
> has all the top priority, went lost in a sea of mails about the Drupal
> project, and despite several mails of people explaining Drupal was just
> an option.
>
> > I hope this clarifies my point, and makes it quite clear that I am not
> > just hearing what I want to. This was the official decision statement
> > as communicated back to the website mailing list.
> Well you now see that the official decision was not a definitive
> statement about Drupal, and that it was *considered* as an option.

Thanks for the clarification Charles,
This makes a lot more sense than a couple of other abrupt, emotional
statements made by others regarding the CMS decision that we have seen
on the mailing lists.
If everyone was as clear and concise as you there would be no
confusion about any issues.

As you can see, there is a lot of enthusiasm around the Drupal
development which has been put to good use and we should not waste.
From my conversations the only reason a lot of people have not been
working on the Silverstripe site is that they don't understand the CMS
and are not really interested in learning it.
It is true, once you use Drupal, you will never install another CMS.

Over the coming couple of weeks, I will put together a proposal for
the Steering Committee to consider an implementation plan.

Again,
Thanks for clarifying this point.

Michael Wheatland

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