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Hello Michael,

2011/1/4 Michael Wheatland <>

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Charles-H. Schulz
<> wrote:
Hello Michael,

Le Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:26:09 +0930,
Michael Wheatland <> a écrit :

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Charles-H. Schulz
<> wrote:
"to implement the Silverstripe CMS on" does not seem to
mean anything to me. "With a view to go with Drupal" was rather:
with the possible option of Drupal in the long term.

Sorry, I meant to write not

ah, okay.

"a little bit of misinformation", Michael, is perhaps your
enthusiasm leading to understand things the way you would like them
to be :-). At this stage, I don't believe we have any clear plans
to move to Drupal; there seems indeed to have been some early
misunderstanding, but if you wish the SC will clarify its position
(again) .  But given that I'm a member of the said SC, it might be
useful to you to take my words into account.

To make this clear in my mind I have listened and read the decision
statement from the Steering Committee decision.

The conversation on the conference call:
"I would ask the people working on Drupal to do a more detailed
planning in the next month regarding additional services..."


There were some bits that I didn't quite understand (poor quality
sound), but many people voiced their opinion that we should consider
Drupal as the long term solution.

I might repeat Cor's statements here, but "many people voiced their
opinion that we should consider Drupal as the long term solution"
means: many people "think we should decide whether Drupal would be a
long term solution" . It's hardly a Steering Committee decision
requesting the use of Drupal.

The statement to the website list from the SC is as follows:
"the CMS decision was taken: it will be Silverstripe as a starter,
with plans to migrate to Drupal later on."

"plans... later on". Not "now let's rush towards creating the
definitive Drupal website"...

I would have thought that this official statement is very clear in the

Obviously it is conditional, and makes clear that it's an option for
the long term.

and the website team has had a large group of people (larger
than that working on the current site) working towards this end, whom
might I say have done a fantastic job in a very short period of time.
Clearly the implementation is still a few months off as we start to
involve Native Language teams and other functional teams.

And to our great dismay, calls for help for the current website, which
has all the top priority, went lost in a sea of mails about the Drupal
project, and despite several mails of people explaining Drupal was just
an option.

I hope this clarifies my point, and makes it quite clear that I am not
just hearing what I want to. This was the official decision statement
as communicated back to the website mailing list.

Well you now see that the official decision was not a definitive
statement about Drupal, and that it was *considered* as an option.

Thanks for the clarification Charles,
This makes a lot more sense than a couple of other abrupt, emotional
statements made by others regarding the CMS decision that we have seen
on the mailing lists.
If everyone was as clear and concise as you there would be no
confusion about any issues.

As you can see, there is a lot of enthusiasm around the Drupal
development which has been put to good use and we should not waste.
From my conversations the only reason a lot of people have not been
working on the Silverstripe site is that they don't understand the CMS
and are not really interested in learning it.
It is true, once you use Drupal, you will never install another CMS.

I really -for what's worth I'd be mentioning that- don't care what we
choose, but I only want results and a tool that adapts to its community and
not the other way around. Definitive statements such as the one above do not
make me look forward Drupal. I could perhaps just say: "how about we design
several html pages and stick them together with cgi, add some javascript and
you have a website?" and that would keep things very, very simple ;)

Over the coming couple of weeks, I will put together a proposal for
the Steering Committee to consider an implementation plan.

Although you wrote it on a different mailing list, I would like to thank you
for willing to help out on the Silverstripe now. Implementation plan for
future drupal site will not be considered until several months, so really,
there's no rush.


Thanks for clarifying this point.

Michael Wheatland

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