From: Barbara Duprey <Barb@onr.com>
On 1/3/2011 11:19 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Le Mon, 03 Jan 2011 10:55:21 -0600,
Barbara Duprey<Barb@onr.com> a écrit :
On 1/3/2011 3:06 AM, Davide Dozza wrote:
Il 02/01/2011 20:41, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto:
inconsistencies. However, it's fortunately or unfortunately,
should not be a problem: OOo& LibO implement the existing and
used version of MS *proprietary formats* used in MS Office 2007
and 2010 that are called OOXML. They're not exactly the ISO
standard, far from that; feel free to call them transitional if
you wish, but it's very much of a grey area and I just call them
MS propietary formats. So what LibO does is to offer convenience
This is the point. MS Office 2007 and 2010 doesn't implement ISO/IEC
29300 also called OOXML.
Please change the subject because it's completely messing. Call
simply MS XML proprietary formats.
They don't implement the "Strict" version -- but I think we'd have a
hard time arguing that they don't implement the "Transitional"
version that must also be considered standard, it's documented in
that specification, and MS wrote it to cover themselves. If we called
these formats proprietary, we could get into real trouble.
Well, the problem is that it's not that documented. Really,
Transitional OOXML was an honourable way out for MS at the ISO's JTC 1.
Basically the deal was that the strict OOXML was rumoured to be clean
(although I don't think it is and I'm not the only one) while the
transitional was "offering more features" and was more in line with the
existing and used formats used by MS Office 2007 and 2010. At this
stage we have no evidence that the transitional OOXML and the formats
used in MS office suites match, and I'm not even saying this out of bad
will against MS: it's a really important question.
Thanks! Very interesting. It still doesn't seem safe to call these
"proprietary" formats, though,
even though the standard's documentation is seriously flawed. Not sure I buy
that "honourable" way
out part -- pragmatic, yes, face-saving, yes, but honorable? I'd have a hard
time applying that term
to what happened there! I really feel for you guys who were in the thick of
it, trying to stop the
juggernaut that was rolling over the process.
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