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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Drew Jensen <> wrote:
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 19:45 +0200, Mike Dupont wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:19 PM, BRM <> wrote:
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From: Drew Jensen <>
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 16:57 +0200, Gianluca Turconi wrote:
Il 20/10/2010  16.36, Mike Dupont ha scritto:
1. what will it cost if you have to  rewrite the authors code and all
derived works.
2.  what if you just remove the code

Contributions are not only  code. There are a lot of intangibles.

Marketing, lobbying and  advocating work are some examples.

Please let us not expand what defines  contribution.

Lobbying should not IMO garner  admittance.

Advocating should not.

You can define contribution as documents or commits to a repository or
wiki, or recruiting of new members to a team, you can define karma
like ubuntu lauchpad does.

I have done alot of advocating and promoting of OOO in Kosovo,

Hello Mike,

Ok - let's try to refine this.

trying to find translators and also aquiring the source code of the 2.0

That is actively working on the project, IMO.

I have also spent ... time on events and meetings.

That is actively working on the project, per the definition at the wiki

Right now we are looking at the huge task of translation from version
2, and I have to say, it is just too big, we need a smaller set of
strings and an easier way to get members to contribute.

To  be honest, a facebook app would be the best way to get people to

Here is an interesting one - let's say that you did not actively work on
translations (yet) and you have not started working at the booth in
fairs and expos (yet..:) - but you started with your own initiative by
creating a Facebook app, in fact let's pull that down a notch and say
that you have started a FB fan page which is focused on LibreOffice, and
you have dutifully worked that fan page for some period of time. ( let's
say 6 months)

Now you come and ask for membership - I would say that is probably not
enough for me to agree, but it would be a factor I would consider, if
you where doing other things also.

Just some thoughts on that.

I am not asking for membership, I am stating what minimal things I
have done for OOO.
I am able to do coding etc, my role in this project for the albanian
language will be in recruiting members and finding funding or
motivation for the localization, until the point that we find someone
better to take over this.
My membership is with the group that we founded in
promoting FLOSS in kosovo and one of the projects is the open office
localization, I see that libreoffice and tdf are going to be more
dynamic I hope or at least help make a difference.

If I get offered membership, I will hope that it is because I earned
it, and I am also able to cut code, but am already over committed on
things right now.

What we really need to do is come up with ideas on making libreoffice
smaller and more managable, and I think I can help with that.
you can see my lists of suggestions in some other mail.

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