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Hi Allen,

While I am rather tired of this combative thread of discussion and think it is way overdue for it 
to stop, you make some statements that can't be left unchallenged.

On 16 Jun 2011, at 15:43, Allen Pulsifer wrote:

Allen Pulsifer wrote:

Hello Thorsten,

I do not agree with your conclusion that the Apache OpenOffice project is a
competing project.  You simply chose to view it that way. 

The main proposer of the project, Rob Weir of IBM, clearly stated his intent for it to be a 
competing project - he even accused me of being potentially in breach of anti-trust law on the 
Apache list[1], and has just re-asserted his view on his blog[2]. So while many of us had hoped for 
a collaborative approach, there are powerful forces who don't want that.

Here's what could have been: The world could have woken up one morning to an
announcement by the TdF congratulating the Apache Foundation for joining the
OpenOffice community

The TDF press release was in fact remarkably positive considering the situation[3], welcomed the 
move and offered scope for discussion over collaboration.

So my all means, continue forward with your decision that your personal
story is what really matters.  That is your prerogative.  Meanwhile, the
LibreOffice project will never be what it could have been.  The opportunity
that has been lost will never come back again.  That is the tragedy.

The tragedy is that people want to keep this divisive argument alive way beyond its sell-by date. I 
think it's time to stop it, and either to focus on the project that you want to work on or seek 
positively for ways to create collaborations.

Cheers,

Simon





[1] 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/%3COF225FDF79.6BEBC50B-ON852578A7.00052DA4-852578A7.00065133@lotus.com%3E
[2] http://www.robweir.com/blog/2011/06/openoffice-libreoffice-and-the-scarcity-fallacy.html
[3] 
http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/06/01/statement-about-oracles-move-to-donate-openoffice-org-assets-to-the-apache-foundation/
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