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On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Greg Stein <> wrote:

You describe how all the committers and people on the steering
committee know these details. Well, of course. But what about all the
people at Apache who are trying to learn about the work you guys have
done here? Trying to learn the details of your Foundation, its
organization, and its (current) backing association? Trying to learn
who handles your donations, and how those proceeds are disbursed?

If you had come up with a plan of merging the foundations, all these details
would have been worked through. I don't think it matters now given the fork.

BRM, Jim, and I are trying to say that that information is opaque. It
takes direct involvement from Florian to achieve understanding.

You should have gotten your question answered before the proposal was
submitted for a vote.

Our goal is not to "beat" you. This is not a competition. That is not
how Apache operates.

Your goal is not to beat LO, but by choosing a fork you make cooperation
difficult via license incompatibilities and social engineering. So if you
aren't cooperating or competing then what word would you recommend?


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