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I was saying I have been using OOo 9 years - and actually when I start counting its probably a year 
or 2 longer - only because I have used it exclusively as my office program. I'm not trying to 
establish a reputation for anything except for being a bit dissatisfied with the way things are 
going right now. Are these the same, or different folks, that are supposed to be bringing forth an 
OOo 3.3? If not, what happened to it?
As I said previously, I already knew of the Oracle takeover of Sun through one of the several 
computer related newsletters I subscribe to. When I heard that it bothered me a little in regard to 
whether OOo would continue to be available or not. And then out of the blue I get an email 
announcing LibreOffice, and that the first beta is available for download. Yeah, it says it 
shouldn't be considered to be "ready for production". My first thought is "what the heck happened 
to the next release of OOo that they had been talking about". Is this a "replacement" product with 
another name? Go to the website for the download and there is really no information there 
explaining what the heck is going on. So I go ahead and download LO while I am there. Only later to 
find out - no this isn't an upgrade to OOo; its another product. But I guess, similar to OOo????? 
And, I will guarantee you there are a ton of other folks out here with the same questions I 
had/have!!! I know all the folks tha
 t I've introduced to OOo over the years have them. And TDF may be doing an outstanding job - but I 
don't see it!!!! They sent me the link to the download, but I'm certainly not a beta tester. So I'm 
still pretty much in the dark on what to expect. And, yes, I do have a fairly strong opinion about 
that, but that does not mean it is not an humble one!
Roxy Robinson


On 10/18/2010 03:00 PM, Roxy Robinson wrote:

Well, you can think what you want to think and I, as just a common
every day, 9 year user of OOo, will think what I want to think. Your
thoughts went way beyond what I said needed to be done, anyway. To
release any software, beta or otherwise, [without] the
support/instruction function in place, is stupid! IMHO!!!

(Roxy, please quote properly, so people won't get confused about who
said what.  Thanks.)

Well, you have a pretty strong opinion for it being humble.   I don't
think anyone here is stupid, least of all the organizers and developers
of TDF.  That's just rude.  They are doing an awesome job.   I guess
we'll agree to disagree.

Also, it seems you are attempting to establish reputation by touting 9
years usage, or perhaps I am misunderstanding your reason for mentioning
it?  Does this matter?  I don't think it does, but if you want to have
that contest please realize that I have been using StarOffice/OOo for a
few years longer than you -- I forget when StarDivision starting making
it available free for personal use, 1998, I think.

It's beta software, so there should be no expectation that a common user
would be installing it -- there is a warning on the site that says it's
not for production use.  The point I think is to send a message that
LibO is going to make the rubber hit the road, right out of the gate.
Considering all of the vaporware out there, I think that LibO is off to
an awesome start.

And, it worked -- it got the community going.  The beta was downloaded
80 000 times in the first week, and the developer list is going
gang-busters on patches.  I consider this a wild success so far.


      ----Jon

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