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Hi Jean,

I just returned from work ... and after checking my mails this morning,
there are about 250 new ones. So please bear with me if somebody already
proposed something which is similar. I answer this mail first, because
one of Jean's mails was "sticking" in my head this morning.

Am Dienstag, den 19.10.2010, 22:12 +1000 schrieb Jean Hollis Weber:
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 07:49 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote:
... how about making suggestions for how to improve
things going forward and stop complaining about what is already

It seems that some things are not that clear at the moment. Concerning
the website, we moved to a GIT repository. That means, that some people
in the community already have access to it and can tweak the pages. It
is a matter of getting in contact with them ... some are on the website
mailing list.

The main point I see is, that the page was created for different reasons
some weeks ago (which was okay that time). In the meantime, there have
been changes to the website to improve it in this or that way - not only
users do require information, also contributors, developers, the
press, ... In sum, some of those independent changes did more harm for
one group, but helped some other stakeholders (e.g. the website list has
been on the contact page).

IIRC, several people have suggested some small changes to the current
website that would make a significant improvement in the experience
ordinary users while waiting for the improved website. I am not
complaining here about those changes not being done (the people who
could were asleep during most of the conversation), but my point is
people HAVE been making suggestions. 

Please contact the website guys to refine the pages so that they are
more helpful for the users. Please keep in mind the different
stakeholders, the "click-flow" (people usually start with the "Welcome"
page; therefore we had these big colored buttons to jump to the topics),
and keep the main structure of the page (the press releases are still
important and link to certain sub-pages).

Moreover, if you think that some content has to be added (e.g. the
comparison of LibO and OOo), then some of you might start a wiki page to
describe the story for "just users". It is a rather easy task to link to
the wiki within the website. This also helps to reduce the effort for
the guys who took responsibility for the website - for which I am
thankful, by the way :-)

By the way: I can provide text updates to the colored buttons once they
are back on the (a bit messy) welcome page ;-) And if you like, I can
also support to get an improved structure.


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