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Christoph Noack wrote:
Ideally, I want QA folks to take notice if the Devs start debating
details of specific features, and conversely, I want Devs to take
notice of QA talking about specific "problem areas" in the product.

But you should also be aware that there are much qa-people which are
doing just testing.
These are not so "technical" and wouldn't like to read or even
understand the things on the dev-list. And there is much
organisational stuff around the testing which wouldn't interest the

Interesting discussion ... I think I do understand all your reasons,
although they aren't fundamentally different.

Same is true for a topic like UX (User Experience). You have to collect
material for UX, you have to discuss issues within UX, it is required to
kick-off activities from UX (e.g. collect tiny usability issues). But on
the other hand, it is extremely important to keep in touch with
development - to be consulted, to understand the other persons'
problems, ...

True - with the distinction that QA is affected by *every* bit of
development, whereas UX only comes into play for things UI-related.

I do see the "don't irritate non-technical QA people" argument - but
on the other hand I *do* want to get them technically savvy over
time, and pick up the 'smell' on were to invest time, if
<stereotype>Dev A starts to hack on the uno registry code

Building two camps again, I fear, will not yield the kind of
collaborative athmosphere I so clearly envision for QA/Dev - case in
point is one Raphael Bircher, who loudly complains about perceived
problems doing QA in LibO - I want those concerns voiced on a list
were they can be discussed with the devs, not to echo unheard in
some zoo made up for QA. ;)

(I could probably live with a bugs@tdf alias, where discussions is
purely about bugs, how to reproduce them, etc - but really, QA is
much more than that)


-- Thorsten

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