RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

Based on limited anecdotal evidence (my own), Office 2010 support for ODF
formats seems to be about the same as in Office 2007.  For Office 2013, I am
always startled by how well Excel 2013 (Preview) works with .ods files now
that OpenFormula is supported.  On the other hand, in my few trials with
.odt files I personally experienced some unexpected defects when opening
them in Word 2013 (Preview).  

This is not a systematic analysis and I don't know where one will find one.
The Word cases were unexpected and I wonder if there are some sort of
difference in the interpretation of the ODF 1.2 specification that needs to
be hammered out.  But that's shear speculation on my part.  It is
unfortunate that venues such as the ODF Interoperability and Conformance TC
and the Plugfests held within the EU are not exploited more to identify and
eliminate some of these problems.  

(Unless I've missed something, only Microsoft has made available a large
collection of test/sample documents, presumably ones that Office does well.
Apache OpenOffice is discussing ways to provide a contributed compilation
from other sources that can be used openly but I don't know if any action is
pending.)

 - Dennis 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Aquilina [mailto:eagles051387@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 09:57
To: 'Simon Phipps'; 'Boudi van Vlijmen'
Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org
Subject: RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

My question though Simon is how well is ODF formatting preserved when
opening up ODF formats in office 2010 and above on windows.

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Phipps [mailto:simon@webmink.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:11 PM
To: Boudi van Vlijmen
Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

I generally advise people to send me PDFs rather than editable documents
unless there's a real need for me to edit them. That way there's no risk
anyone will get locked-in to anything :-)

If I *do* need to be able to edit I request Hybrid PDF files, which are PDFs
with the original ODF source embedded. They are easy to make with
LibreOffice and I've created a tutorial here:
http://webmink.com/2012/05/07/making-hybrid-pdfs/

S.

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Boudi van Vlijmen
<boudi@vanvlijmen.nl>wrote:

> Friends,
>
> Every email I send has the footer as in this one.
>
> The purpose is to achieve;
>
>    1. Vendor-lock-in awarness
>    2. Hook in on the society learning curve status.
>
> The message is:
> ODT in place of DOC/DOCX,
> ODS in place of XLS/XLSX,
> ODP in place of PPT/PPTX.
>
> ODF is one bridge to far. People think in DOC, XLS and PPT. To get 
> them away from that we should start from there. Not with a high level 
> ODF concept!
>
> Met vriendelijke groet,
> Kind regards,
> Boudi van Vlijmen <http://www.vanvlijmen.nl>
>
>   *Werk documenten*
> ODT, gDoc, DOC, DOCX
> ODS, gSheet, XLS, XLSX
> en ODP, gSlides, PPT, PPTX
>  *Distributie en Archivering*
> PDF/A <http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF/A>
>
>
>   [image: Inline image 1]
>  [image: Inline image 1]
>   *Open standards or Open Wallets that is the question! Waak over uw 
> onafhankelijkheid!
> *
> http://forumstandaardisatie.nl/
> Beleidsquote "Rijksdiensten moeten vanaf april 2008 ODF ondersteunen.
> Mede-overheden en overige instellingen volgen uiterlijk december 2008.
> ODF = .odt voor tekst, .ods voor spreadsheets, .odp voor presentaties"
> Vendor-lock
> safe formats <http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in>
>  http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument
> **

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