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Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness


I think the only way vendor lock in awareness can be achieved on the mac platform. 
Would be for apple to acknowledge in there license agreement of document software that they do not 
support ODF formats. And a support documentation that lists a reason why and a discussion link as 
to what ODF formats are. Such as a the ODF foundation site. Where there could be a list of 
alternatives for ODF format software for mac users. 
Or a similar solution to having a description similar to the exe file on the mac that states that 
it is a windows binary file with a link that is documentation that is then supported with a step 
process of alternative software.  
That way users would be aware first of all. Decline apple and its vendor lock in process in the 
agreement and use an open alternative.  

LJ

On 07/02/2013, at 7:22 PM, "Jonathan Aquilina" <eagles051387@gmail.com> wrote:

Is there a newer version of office for mac as I am on 2011 and I admit that
doesn't do it? Maybe if they have a newer version that I am not aware of
that does do it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Laurence Jeloudev [mailto:ljeloudev@gmail.com] 
Sent: 07 February 2013 09:21
To: Jonathan Aquilina
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

Not on the mac platform. 

Sent from my iPad

On 07/02/2013, at 7:20 PM, "Jonathan Aquilina" <eagles051387@gmail.com>
wrote:

Keep in mind that office 2010 and above supports odf formats and you 
have the choice to choose between Microsoft's proprietary formats or 
odf. When you run word for example for the first time it would ask you 
if you want to use xml formats or odf formats.

-----Original Message-----
From: Laurence Jeloudev [mailto:ljeloudev@gmail.com]
Sent: 07 February 2013 09:14
To: Jonathan Aquilina
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

Personally I could be mistaken,
But many mac users that I know of do not use ODF formats at all, 
because it is not included in proprietary software that is for Mac OS X.
There first instinct I believe is to go straight to the windows 
platform and convert the document and not install a new open source 
office suite that can open the file.
Thus I believe the problem then stems even further.
There is no real practical prompt suggestion, awareness marketing 
advertisement from apple or Microsoft that this file can be opened 
using another program on the same apple platform.
Wether it be LO or not. 
I believe ODF formats for some mac users can be like opening an exe 
file on a mac platform. It is completely foreign to the user.

LJ. 




On 07/02/2013, at 6:56 PM, "Jonathan Aquilina" 
<eagles051387@gmail.com>
wrote:

What would be interesting to see with the comment about mac below. 
What are the current statistics of LO downloads for mac.

-----Original Message-----
From: Laurence Jeloudev [mailto:ljeloudev@gmail.com]
Sent: 07 February 2013 08:03
To: M. Fioretti; Libreoffice Discussion List
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

ODF formats are still not implemented to a point where consumers can 
forget about what software they are using. And this is a concern for 
mac users, as there software is usually proprietary software and not 
software with ODF formats in it. The only program on the mac that can 
only open odt documents is text editor.

There is no default requirement for a user to explore an ODF formats 
program on the mac. They usually are swamped with proprietary 
software as being the only solution, and forget that ODF formats 
exist. As the odt format can be mistaken as a basic text document 
format and not a fully fledged document suite file type format on the
mac.


LJ

On 07/02/2013, at 12:21 AM, "M. Fioretti" <mfioretti@nexaima.net> wrote:

On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 20:17:49 PM +1100, Laurence Jeloudev wrote:
The concept is a great idea. 

But what if you encounter a person with a mac computer.

that's the whole point. Both of ODF in general, and, I assume, of 
Boudi. His signature is only about formats, it never mentions 
specific software programs.

THE reason for formats like ODF is to arrive as soon as possible to 
a point where you can ignore what software the others are using.

More on this topic:

http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/focus_format_history

Marco

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