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Hi Allen, *,

Allen Pulsifer schrieb:

On that point, let me be clear: There are
millions of potential users for OOo, LO, and open document formats. 
Many of those potential users work in companies, government agencies
and other organizations that routinely trust Microsoft, Oracle, IBM
and other large corporations to meet their IT needs.  Getting in a
public spat with any of those companies does not help the project in
the least, it only hurts it.  End users do not care about who's
right, who's wrong, who's been slighted, who is more pure, etc.  They
just care about products and technologies that are going to meet
their needs.

Well, for a healthy community not *only* happy end users are an essetial
ingredient as aren't *only* happy coders.

If it isn't possible to achive having all parts of the community happy
and that way satisfying a significant range of end users (which I also
count as part of it) then we definitly should rethink the questions: who
are we? Where do we go?

For many users, the best thing OOo had going for it was
that it was backed by Sun and there was a commercial version users
they could turn to if they needed support, etc. 

Did You ask some of them about the degree of happyness with the results.
I'd be interested to read positive feedback regarding this (preferably
big numbers!).

Now that Oracle has pulled out, that is gone and TdF cannot replace
it.  Regardless of individual feelings, the best the TdF and its
members could do at this point would be to put on a smiling face,
magnanimously congratulate the ASF for joining the community, and at
least make it look like they were working closely with IBM to bring
the best possible open document technologies to the world.  If most or
almost all of the LO contributors joined the Apache OpenOffice
project, if only to lend moral support and help heal the rift, that
would only be good for LO and the TdF.  The best time to do that is

Simply don't agree - as of having bad *experience* regarding a big
company beeing bad balanced power community member.

I notice Your claims beeing questions of faith packed as facts and put
mine at the opposite side. So 1:1 ;o))

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