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Le 2011-01-10 11:56, sophie a écrit :
Hi Drew,
On 10/01/2011 19:41, drew wrote:

Slightly off topic but it is part of this issue: As to the question of a
single monolithic view of the project, all things LibreOffice will be at
one domain, this is a basic assumption that I an not willing to adhere

There is great value in a networked view, I am not advocating a lack of
concern for the trademark, that will be from time to time necessary and
is part of our responsibilities, but I am most vigorously arguing
against a view that all things should flow into a single point, rather
that we build an organization that flows outwards, we support the
efforts and initiatives of others that make use of this Free Open Source
application we build.
I think there is a different view also coming from the native language
groups because I think of the lack of 'marketing the community' we have
met in the past.
The forum is a great support and resource for users, but we also have to
think on how to get new members contributing to the project.
 From our experience in the FR community, but I think it's also true for
other languages, the forum didn't help us here. I'm not accusing
anybody, be sure it's absolutely not my idea, I just point that we need
to think about it and find solutions. We should be able to have more
contributors also coming from the forum.
I don't know how, because I can't participate to forum, but I think it
participates to the idea of splitting the resources Stefan was talking
about. And it is may be more visible in language communities because we
need resources for QA/Doc/L10n, etc, where it is done by the overall
community en English language.
Again, this is not to open flames against the forum, it is just to state
an issue we have met for some times now and open a reflexion on the way
to solve it in our project.

Kind regards

Before you read the next lines, I have to say that I will most likely not be using the right terminology and hope you understand my point(s).

Well, then, would both Drew and Sophie be against having the forums passing through the main site and the "Forums" page with the forums being themed in such a way that they appear to belong as a "LibreOffice" site. This way, the forums would still have their independence, the different admins will still be the same. The only difference is that the forums could cooperate and theme to blend into the site.

This would make it easier to community build as most users would eventually believe that their forum has equal weight on the site. It would give everyone a sense of belonging.

We could then setup a official forum for official announcements and whatever would not be covered under the international language forum.

Do you think this would be acceptable?

A metaphor to this is LibreOffice forums would be the same as the EU states (nl forums) dressed up in the EU flag (LibreOffice site); the same metaphor as the US States (nl forums) dressed up in the US flag (LibreOffice site); the African States ... etc.

The point I would like to make is that if people get a sense of belonging, then it is easier to improve and build community. It is also easier to speak as one voice when you feel like you belong.


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