Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

On 11/01/2011 2:12 AM, "drew" <drew@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 17:12 +0100, Stefan Weigel wrote:
> > Hi Drew,
> >
> > Am 10.01.2011 16:50, schrieb drew:
> >
> > > But even if that where not true, there is this: LibreOffice not
> > > OpenOffice.
> > >
> > > The application is not the same, and the organization is not the same.
> > >
> > > What part of that do you disagree with, please.
> >
> > The forums and other support sites (and the people running them)
> > that were running under the label of "OpenOffice.org" until
> > LibreOffice was born, were supporting all derivates of
> > OpenOffice.org and they still do. And since LibreOffice came up,
> > they do support LibreOffice as well. So, in this sence, there is no
> > difference between LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org.
> >
> > If some user needs to know how to use DataPilot or how to use
> > Templates or how to import data via Base, there is no difference or
> > no noteworthy difference between LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org.
> >
> > That´s why I beleive it does not make sense to have well-established
> > forums that cover all derivates of OpenOffice.org including
> > LibreOffice and yet additional forums dedicated to LibreOffice.
> >
> > Stefan
>
> Ok, that is good.
>
> Well, in the particular of the moment you are correct that most of the
> application is the same.
>
> - but I do not want to be tied to OpenOffice.org in any way
>
> - the ability to support OpenOffice.org users at our support site will
> be possible also
>
> - the time to begin building our knowledgebase is now, while it is still
> possible to easily enhance it through the availability of the older
> forums.
>
> - the existence of multiple support options IMO is a positive for end
> users, not a negative and causes no burden to our project.
>
> Slightly off topic but it is part of this issue: As to the question of a
> single monolithic view of the project, all things LibreOffice will be at
> one domain, this is a basic assumption that I an not willing to adhere
> to.
>
> There is great value in a networked view, I am not advocating a lack of
> concern for the trademark, that will be from time to time necessary and
> is part of our responsibilities, but I am most vigorously arguing
> against a view that all things should flow into a single point, rather
> that we build an organization that flows outwards, we support the
> efforts and initiatives of others that make use of this Free Open Source
> application we build.
>
> Thanks
>
> Drew

I totally agree with your views Drew.

Some sites are changing to suit our new product, for example OOoAuthors is
changing branding and domain to avoid OOo branding and the mix up this
causes with our community. I think we should support them officially if they
wish to accommodate our community. However you are spot on, LibreOffice is a
new community with a new product. We need to build brand recognition by not
confusing end users by pointing them to OOo branded infrastructure.

I also share the passion for freedom that you advocate with external sites.
Although I think there is justification for community oversight on an
officially sanctioned forum.

Nabble is not a forum, does not provide the functionality of a forum, and is
likely to confuse end users who just want to ask a simple question on a
forum.

Also, I think it was suggested that I would set up something, this is not
the case, I have my hands full at the moment, someone else would have to
pick this up, but I would support the creation of a dedicated forum system
fully.

Michael Wheatland

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