Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc

When i first mentioned it its the only one i could think of as its what 
im using to write my response to this email. I am in no way suggesting 
limiting thing to just thunderbird. the more options the better as it 
allows users to have choices on what to work with.

On 1/6/11 2:47 PM, BRM wrote:
> Again, why just Thunderbird? Why not work with Mozilla (Thunderbird, SeaMonkey,
> Lightening/Sunbird, Firefox), Opera, GNOME (Evolution, etc), KDE (KMail, KPIM,
> etc.) to develop interfaces that can be used to integrate any of the various
> email and calendaring tools out there? Especially the open source ones.
>
> There is no reason to limit people to just Thunderbird.
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Jonathan Aquilina<eagles051387@gmail.com>
> > To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
> > Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011 2:04:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc
> >
> > I agree with you totally here Jaime.
> >
> > On 01/06/2011 07:30 AM, Jaime R.  Garza wrote:
> > > I believe integrating Thunderbird would be more a marketing  move than
> > > anything else, but marketing is very effective!!! So that's  why I think it
> > > would be great if Thunderbird could be integrated  automatically with LO. As
> > > I said before, a sort of container that can  select the applications ti be
> > > installed, probably giving the option by  installation to select the
> > > individual appliciations: Writer(Text P.),  Calc(Spreadsheet),
> > > Impress(Presentations),..., Thunderbird(E-Mail),  Lightning(Calendar).
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Jaime R.  Garza
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 15:22, Christophe  Strobbe<
> > > christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be>    wrote:
> > >
> > > > At 00:19 3/01/2011, Jonathan Aquilina  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What do other devs think about including  something as mentioned below
> > > > > somehow in regards to a mail client  alternative to MS outlook?
> > > > I've been working without  an "integrated e-mail client" for years; it's
> not
> > > > a priority for me.  However, when I recommended OpenOffice.org to another
> > > > user  (before October last year), she asked if it also contained an
> Outlook
> > > > alternative. I replied that alternatives exist elsewhere,  e.g.
> Thunderbird.
> > > > (I just checked that Corel WordPerfect Office  Standard has Lightning and
> > > > Thunderbird integrated. The toll of  Microsoft Office brainwashing? As far
> > as
> > > > I can tell from the  Wikipedia entry, iWork does not have an e-mail client.
> > > > Nor do  SoftMaker Office 2010 or Kingsoft Office 2010.)
> > > >
> > > > Without  a proper survey, we can probably only guess how many users expect
> > > > an  e-mail cient in an office suite.
> > > > So I can only offer my opinion: the  ability to interface with e-mail
> > > > clients would be a useful feature.  Some users don't want to migrate to
> > > > another mail client just because  it is included in the LibreOffice
> > download,
> > > > but other users - I'm  thinking of users new to office suites and e-mail -
> > > > may appreciate  some handholding. If an e-mail client were integrated in
> the
> > > >   LibreOffice download, I would like the option to exclude it from the
> > > >   installation and have the office suite interface with my installed  client
> > > > (assuming that it implements the necessary  APIs).
> > > >
> > > > I haven't mentioned forking an existing mail  client; that's because I
> don't
> > > > consider it a good way to use TDF  community resources.
> > > >
> > > > Best  regards,
> > > >
> > > >   Christophe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >    On 1/2/11 7:49  PM, Charles Marcus wrote:
> > > > > > On 2011-01-01 1:43 PM, Jonathan  Aquilina wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Whats really held  OOo and will hold LO back is the lack of an
> equivalent
> > > > > > >   program such as outlook.
> > > > > > Well, I  disagree, but there is no way to prove one of us is right,
> so...
> > > > > >    There are one of three ways  it can be done.
> > > > > > > 1) fork something like evolution which  has all that done and integrate
> > > > > > >   it
> > > > > > > into the LO  suite
> > > > > > Evolution is extremely buggy,  *especially* on Windows, but yes, even on
> > > > > > *nix... Yes, there  are many people who run it without problems, but
> > > > > > there are  far more who complain of constant crashes and bugs, even on
> > > > > >   the stablest of systems  (otherwise)...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    2) or install  software that already exists in the open source arena.
> > > > > >   Thunderbird+Lightning would be the best other choice here...not  perfect
> > > > > > by any stretch, but the only viable FLOSS  alternative on Windows at the
> > > > > > moment, at least that I am  aware of...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    the problem with 2 is  that it will greatly increase the download size,
> > > > > > >   which
> > > > > > > would pose issues for people with slow  bandwidth.
> > > > > > Thunderbird+Lightning is  not that big...
> > > > --
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