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I would be interested in heading something like this up as I am a mac user as well as win and lin

On 1/5/11 8:02 PM, BRM wrote:
I think such a project would have to focus really on Windows and perhaps Mac.
Most Linux systems use package management software, often vary different. Some
(e.g. gentoo) do not have a GUI interface at all.
And honestly, the only place this is really a problem is on Windows, with Mac as
a runner up.
I'm pretty sure there isn't an issue on any other platform.

But as I said - it's really a project for another entity to take control of -
whether another project managed by TDF, or by someone else entirely, like


----- Original Message ----
From: Jonathan Aquilina<>
Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 12:19:31 PM
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc

One problem would be Linux i think with this approach. Instead of making
a  bundle for each specific distro i think we would have the package
management  GUI pop up of that particular distro and will automatically
in the search  put in Thunderbird for instance and will allow it to
appear in front and  then just click and install that way.

Would love to hear some feed back  from some of the big time devs on this
project about doing this.

On  1/5/11 6:13 PM, BRM wrote:
I was about to suggest something along a  similar line, and that fits
well within it...

  Instead of bundling an email client with LibreOffice, I suggest as part of
installer the option be provided to download and install  one.
For instance, the installer could list an Email line which users  could
expand to
show Thunderbird, selecting Thunderbird would then  download the _latest_
Thunderbird release, and start its  installer.
That would, of course, require an Internet connection at the  time the
runs; but would save on the download space for  everyone. It would also
the installer to select the right locale  installer for Thunderbird too (if
necessary). The same could be done for  Firefox/Opera/etc.

Additionally, this approach would allow the  installer to present several
- e.g. Firefox vs. Opera;  Thunderbird vs. Evolution.

Now, taking that line of thinking - a  separate project[1] to enable users to
  OO/LO/Calligra/Thunderbird/Evolution/Firefox/etc via a single installer
probably be a great thing; and further having _plug-ins_ that  would enable
to inter-operate would also be a great thing if that  was desired, and it
be provided as part of the installer  package.



[1] I  wouldn't make such an installer part of LO officially. May be another
project, or another entity all-together ( might be the best
  organization to handle it.)

----- Original  Message ----
From: Jonathan Aquilina<>
  Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 11:43:52 AM
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss]  Co-working with Moz, etc

Funny you mention it i just  replied with a similar response about
bundling  said software  as part of the downloadable installer.

On 1/5/11 5:39  PM,  Todd rme wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:32 AM,  drew<>      wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 17:11 +0100, Jonathan  Aquilina  wrote:
If we are looking to promote this  to corporations it will  need to have
one, and we  could give them the option to install  one. A home user
opt out of installing it if they don't  want  an email client
Right - well, it depends to a degree on how  you  define "it" being part
of the suite - in the case  of LibreOfficeBox,  which is the distribution
DVD  created by the OOoDev team, most of  whom are also part of  the
LibreOffice team the disc includes  Thunderbird -  so at one level it is
at least "bundled" together .   (They also include SeaMonkey in that

Now there is no English  version of that DVD,  which I propose is where
members  of the English speaking community  could get involved - it
be recreated in   English.

For that matter, using the  LibreOfficeDVD  project as a reference, other
groups  could form to create alternate  "bundles". Following the
these groups need not be formal  projects in  TDF but could form as
auxiliary   projects.

Anyway - it just seems to me  that when this  conversation comes up, as
does from  time to time, that this  approach never is brought  up.


Rather than  having other groups  providing bundles, what about an
  alliance of a few groups that provide a  single,  comprehensive
installer?  For instance perhaps  LibreOffice,  Mozzila, Gimp, and
Inkscape come together and  release one installer with  all those apps
bundled  in.  It would be any single group or member   responsible,
instead an agreement between the groups to  release  it.  Then on the
respective websites they  could release their own  app, as well as the
bundle for  those who want it.

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