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One problem would be Linux i think with this approach. Instead of making a bundle for each specific distro i think we would have the package management GUI pop up of that particular distro and will automatically in the search put in Thunderbird for instance and will allow it to appear in front and then just click and install that way.

Would love to hear some feed back from some of the big time devs on this project about doing this.

On 1/5/11 6:13 PM, BRM wrote:
I was about to suggest something along a similar line, and that fits perfectly
well within it...

Instead of bundling an email client with LibreOffice, I suggest as part of the
installer the option be provided to download and install one.
For instance, the installer could list an Email line which users could expand to
show Thunderbird, selecting Thunderbird would then download the _latest_
Thunderbird release, and start its installer.
That would, of course, require an Internet connection at the time the installer
runs; but would save on the download space for everyone. It would also enable
the installer to select the right locale installer for Thunderbird too (if
necessary). The same could be done for Firefox/Opera/etc.

Additionally, this approach would allow the installer to present several choices
- e.g. Firefox vs. Opera; Thunderbird vs. Evolution.

Now, taking that line of thinking - a separate project[1] to enable users to get
OO/LO/Calligra/Thunderbird/Evolution/Firefox/etc via a single installer would
probably be a great thing; and further having _plug-ins_ that would enable them
to inter-operate would also be a great thing if that was desired, and it could
be provided as part of the installer package.



[1] I wouldn't make such an installer part of LO officially. May be another TDF
project, or another entity all-together ( might be the best
organization to handle it.)

----- Original Message ----
From: Jonathan Aquilina<>
Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 11:43:52 AM
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc

Funny you mention it i just replied with a similar response about
bundling  said software as part of the downloadable installer.

On 1/5/11 5:39 PM,  Todd rme wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:32 AM, drew<>    wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 17:11 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina  wrote:
If we are looking to promote this to corporations it will  need to have
one, and we could give them the option to install  one. A home user might
opt out of installing it if they don't  want an email client
Right - well, it depends to a degree on how you  define "it" being part
of the suite - in the case of LibreOfficeBox,  which is the distribution
DVD created by the OOoDev team, most of  whom are also part of the
LibreOffice team the disc includes  Thunderbird - so at one level it is
at least "bundled" together .  (They also include SeaMonkey in that

Now there is no English version of that DVD,  which I propose is where
members of the English speaking community  could get involved - it could
be recreated in  English.

For that matter, using the LibreOfficeDVD  project as a reference, other
groups could form to create alternate  "bundles". Following the reference
these groups need not be formal  projects in TDF but could form as
auxiliary  projects.

Anyway - it just seems to me that when this  conversation comes up, as it
does from time to time, that this  approach never is brought up.


Rather than having other groups  providing bundles, what about an
alliance of a few groups that provide a  single, comprehensive
installer?  For instance perhaps LibreOffice,  Mozzila, Gimp, and
Inkscape come together and release one installer with  all those apps
bundled in.  It would be any single group or member  responsible,
instead an agreement between the groups to release  it.  Then on the
respective websites they could release their own  app, as well as the
bundle for those who want it.

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