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On 2011/08/01 3:42 PM  Ken Springer wrote:
On 8/1/11 2:40 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
I'm confused. You previously stated you could not post through gmane with your Snowshed
address. Now you say you haven't.
You're not wasting your time, but our wires are definitely getting crossed up.  And, as this
is a text only method of communication, it surprises me not.

You're a Mac user, how far back do you go with Mac's?
I switched to a Mac five years ago and will never go back to the dark side.

From the beginning:

1. Signed up for LO's user mailing list with the Snowshed address.    Very frustrated with a
mailing list help solution, and was about to
   unsubscribe when I learned about GMANE.
I remember you switching to Gmane. I think I was the first responding to your questions about it.
2. Subscribed (if that's the right word) to GMANE.  Worked fine.
3. Unsubscribed the LO user mailing list subscription.
4. Resubscribed to LO user mailing list with the no email option, and
   GMANE worked fine for the user list, and eventually added 3 more LO
   lists to the GMANE account.  All 4 lists worked fine for sending and
   receiving.  I don't remember actually signing up for the other 3
   lists using the no email option.
Mail sent from unsubscribed posters goes to the moderators and may then be posted. No guaranties though.

5. Then came all the mailing list email address changes, and GMANE
   apparently choked on some of it.  Florian was posting about trying
   to get it worked out.  At the same time period, I dropped my
   satellite internet service in favor of newly installed fiber
   optics.  (Who wouldn't??????  :-D )  Somewhere in this total time
   frame, sending using GMANE quit for all 4 lists.
All the mailing lists changed to There was a long delay in getting the change into Gmane.

6. The went away with the satellite service.
7. was in no way connected to the satellite
   and fiber optics changes.  Greeleynet offers dialup service, and I
   keep it for testing modems in the PC's I fix.  And, there are too
   many people, places, and things that have the Wordworks email
   address for me to want to try to make changes at this point.
8. I played around with different ideas, could not find the answer.  I
   found GMANE's site somewhat less than useful for the "unknowing in
   this area".
9. Since I could not post to any of the LO lists using GMANE, I
   subscribed to the discussion list using the Wordworks email
   address.  When using the wordworks account in TB, posts to the
   discussion list work.
10. In the GMANE account, I changed the reply to address from to, thinking  that
   might work.  But, it didn't.  No post to any of the 4 LO lists, sent
   via GMANE, ever get posted.
From address should be set in the Account settings. You stated previously that you have done so. No need for a Reply-to address unless it is different than your From address.

With a new address you should receive a confirmation email from Gmane that you have to reply to before the post is forwarded to LO. That is why I suggested checking your spam folders.

I just made a test. I changed the email address listed in TB's Account Settings for Gmane. I then sent a message to this list. I got a reply from Gmane asking me to reply to confirm that I exist before the message would be sent to LO.

For some reason you are not seeing the messages from Gmane when sending from your new address.

11. I made no change at GMANE itself.
There is nothing to change on the Gmane website.

12. I still receive all posts made to the LO lists via GMANE, but
   anything I try to send via GMANE goes somewhere other than what I
   want.  :-)  The posts are all sitting in the appropriate sent
   folder, but they never show up in the LO list.  I don't know if the
   blockage is at GMANE, LO, or both.
13. In the end, I see all the discussion list posts in both accounts,
   but can send in only one account.

In summary:

1. I can receive LO list posts for all 4 lists in the GMANE NNTP
   account, but no messages I send for any of the lists ever get posted.
2. I can receive from and post to the discussion list via the Wordworks
   email account.  That is the only LO list I've subscribed to using
   the wordworks address.
It still sounds like you either haven't responded to or haven't received the confirmation email from Gmane. It may have been caught by spam filters somewhere before it got to you.

I think I've got this written clearly.  :-)  But another thing I've learned over the years,
never proofread your own writing!   LOL  And my cat's can't read.  :-D
It is quite clear.

Here is a suggestion. Do you have another email address you could use? (I use gmail addresses for all the newsgroup and email lists I follow)

If so subscribe to the no mail version of this list using another address:

Reply to the confirmation email you receive.

In Thunderbird, go to Tools/Account Settings and select your Gmane account.
Change the "Email Address:" to your new email address.
Leave "Reply-to:" blank

Send a message to Newsgroup: gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss
Your should receive an email back from Gmane. Reply to it.

Hopefully this would work for you. I have no more ideas why you aren't getting a reply from Gmane after changing to your Wordworks address.


Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese

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