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May I just take the time to agree 100% that this old stuff is, or
should be, dead and buried so we can move on. Remember, we are not
alone in forking from Oracle this way - for instance the Drizzle
database (by ex-MSQL developers) is now rated best non-proprietary
database option and this month LibreOffice was for the first time
similarly rated as the best non-proprietary office option.

Frankly, there is only Java left before Oracle burns all the bridges
it bought. So let's just move on and do what we are here for.

On 18/05/2011 11:05, Cor Nouws wrote:
Hi Ben,

This discussion is a bit, as we say in Dutch "ouwe koeien uit de sloot
halen" :-)   (hmm, old stuff that maybe you shouldn't care about any
longer)

I have seen moments too in the first months of TDF that did not feel
so good. However ...

BRM wrote (18-05-11 11:53):
While I was originally optimistic that TDF/LO would be better than
Sun/Oracle
OOo, as a result I have yet to see that happen.
That's not to say it isn't happening or the community isn't taking
over - I'm
just waiting a bit longer to see.

So for now yes, I continue to use OOo. If TDF/LO shows it is truly a
community
project and not ruled by a benevolent few that are forcing the hands
of the
community, then I will likely switch over and start participating
more - until
then I shall continue to watch.

.. in this community there is no single person or party pushing
decisions. All that participate have a saying. But of course, most in
areas where your participation is relevant. And sure, still some
processes are not perfect. But that is noticed and people involved
discuss about how it works and haw to improve.

Be welcome.

Best,
Cor



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