Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Mail List issues

Hi Charles, *,

Charles Marcus schrieb:
> On 2011-03-11 9:52 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
> > Charles Marcus schrieb:

> > > So change the footer to something like:

> > > Unsubscribe: E-mail to discuss+unsubscribe@documentfoundation.org
> > > List Help: E-mail to discuss+help@documentfoundation.org
> > > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/
> > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***

> > minor change of line 2:
> > I'd like rather:
> > List Help: visit http://nice-url.libreoffice.org

> Fine with me...

Uff! :o))

> > If some day someone provides me with http://nice-url.libreoffice.org
> > I'll go and change footers as avised since january.

> I'm confused... you're ok with making the change, but won't do so
> until the list help is converted from the *current* email format to a
> web page?

> That doesn't make sense - these are two separate issues... if you can
> make the change, please do so, then once a web page help is created,
> you can change line 2 to the web link...

You're right 2 seperate things. But for me: 2 times start action, which
I don't like. It's nearly double work. My offer is to sit down and do
the work *once* if all is fine. There is a big agenda waiting. You might
remember: We're working on setting up the DVD environment.

> > > Of course, each list should have the correct unsub link in its
> > > footer.

> > like it's already the case with the this-list+help and is also the
> > case in the mail sent to this-list+help@lang.domain.tld

> That's a link to the *help* email...

> > To unsubscribe from the digest of this list send a message to:
> > [..]
> > ================</reply> ================

> > note: clickable Link!!

> That brings up a new *email* message...

indeed.

> I'm talking about a link that, with one click, takes you to a *web*
> page that simply says something like "You have been unsubscribed from
> this-list - if this was in error, click 'here' to resubscribe."

Ah, didn't get that - but I still prefer: click here to confirm! ;o))

> This is how many, many unsub links work...

Now got it. As Florian wrote: isn't implemented yet.

> Hey... in fact, many unsub links in  the email footer itself takes you
> to a secure confirmation *web page*, where you can then click the
> 'Yes, really unsub me now!' button...

> I like that idea much better now that I think of it...

ditto

> > > There really is no reasonable, rational argument against adding
> > > this one liner to the footer.

> > Your right - it's waiting since weeks ;o))

> > but I share Christian's concerns, that changing the first line
> > causes as much trouble as it avoids.

> I have seen no - ZERO - reasonable explanation as to how this causes
> *more* trouble... please reiterate...

O.K.: All subscribers not subscribed for "normal" mail will get
trouble. recall: no universal unsubscribe for whatever subscription
available.

> > > I'll bet making these three changes will resolve at least half of
> > > the problems people have, if not more.

> > Guess: Lost!! ;o))

> Not at all... I win this one hands down...

With all requirements satisfied - maybe. :o)).


Gruß/regards
-- 
Friedrich
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LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images
(german version already started)




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