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 On 10/15/2010 5:22 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi Barbara,

Barbara Duprey wrote on 2010-10-15 21.48:

LibO apparently uses mlmmj rather than ezmlm, and OOo is apparently in a
transition to Kenai and its list manager. But the root problem here is

we indeed use mlmmj, as ezmlm is tied to Qmail, and we use Postfix. Regarding the Kenai migration, I don't know the current status, looks as if the project was quite silent the last months - but I'm not up to date here.

that really no human should have to know, or care, whether or not the OP
is subscribed. IMO, the ideal solution would be that if an unsubscribed
user initiates a thread, they should automatically be "subscribed" to
that thread (specifically) once the message has been moderated and
posted to the list (assuming that moderation is still required). This

Sadly, this is technically impossible. However, I think we do provide so many ways of joining the lists -- GMANE, direct mail, and soon Nabble -- so there should be an option for everyone. We will never make everyone happy, I fear, but we're doing our best. :)

I think if there were a Reply capability in the LibO archive, we could accomplish most of the task even without automatic support. Either those of us who already pay attention to whether the OP is subscribed, or a more formal team that processes mail as notified by the moderator* when passing on the messages, could direct the unsub to the archive of their question and tell him how to participate in that thread. In that case, there would be no need for anybody to cc the OP. If it isn't done by an identified team, so that we could be sure somebody had done it, there'd need to be a message to the list that the user has been given that information. One technical question there is whether the archive threading is broken by a subject change -- that was really the main reason I gave up on use of the "thread" command.

[* Here I'm thinking of a separate account, accessible to all the team members, that was cc'ed on the forwarding by the moderator. We'd log in and take messages off of there, look up the archive reference, and notify the user. This even has some advantages over a fully automatic process, in that some subscribed users (Harold, you know who you are!) sometimes use unsubscribed accounts, and we could ignore the unsub process for them.]


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