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 On 10/15/2010 11:58 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2010-10-15 9:58 AM, James Wilde wrote:
On Oct 15, 2010, at 13:43 , Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2010-10-15 2:18 AM, James Wilde wrote:
Is it possible to add an indication that a message has been
passed by the moderators to the subject line, or as a secondary
header in the message itself?  This way those answering the OP
will know that they need to add his/her personal address to the
Doesn't it make more sense just to modify the Reply-To header (to
both the list and the OP) and let the mail client just do the right
You mean automatically, or in the copy of the message that comes to
the moderators?  I didn't think that any changes one made to this
would percolate through to the message subsequently posted to the
list, but I'm willing to try.
Yes, automatically... if the list software cannot do it natively, then
someone could write a custom handler (at least in mailman you can do
this, if exmlm can't then thats another reason to change) that would
accept posts from non-members, but with some extra processing where it
modified the Reply-To headers.
The reason allowing non-members to post is a problem (endless questions
and explanations) is *because* these messages are currently handled

LibO apparently uses mlmmj rather than ezmlm, and OOo is apparently in a transition to Kenai and its list manager. But the root problem here is that really no human should have to know, or care, whether or not the OP is subscribed. IMO, the ideal solution would be that if an unsubscribed user initiates a thread, they should automatically be "subscribed" to that thread (specifically) once the message has been moderated and posted to the list (assuming that moderation is still required). This would be analogous to the mechanism for issue handling, where you can get messages whenever somebody modifies the issue content. The "subscription" should also add them to a list of those allowed to post to that thread without moderator involvement. There may be some difficulties with maintaining threading across some types of changes, though, such as subject changes made to clarify non-subjects like "Help!" (a perennial favorite!).

If the official archives allowed for actual conversation, another option would be to automatically supply the unsubscribed OP with a link into the archive for that thread, if that could be done as the message is archived. Both the nabble and Gmane archives provide a "Reply" option (requiring confirmation on first use). The OOo archive doesn't. Actually, such a link could also be manually provided by the small group of people who currently monitor such things on the lists, even without an automatic response. We can *almost* get there with the current ezmlm system on the OOo users list, but the lack of a Reply capability really messes it up.

I've looked at this whole area quite extensively, and I'd gladly continue the discussion here or off-list.

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