Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

On 2010/10/10 5:23 AM  Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> Hi Larry,
>
> Larry Gusaas schrieb:
> > What would you be giving away?
>
> Maintenance and control over the content of the archives. Will Gnome
> store them for tenths of years? at the same place?

According to your website you have your archives set up.The question of how long Gmane will 
store posts is irrelevant. You have control of your own archives

> > As for the past, I do not know what you mean.
>
> In this case it is not easy to discuss this topic with you, because you
> don't know about the necessities for our mailing lists either.
>
> The OpenOffice.org lists have been hosted by CollabNet, that had
> restrictions in list management (language dependent information mails
> just to mention one point). We asked them several times for
> improvements, but changes have been very hard to achieve (if at all).

I know that. It is also irrelevant to the question of posting through Gmane. You have control 
of your lists and archives. They have nothing to do with Gmane.

> > Gmane is the simplest way to follow OOo groups and would be the
> > simplest way to follow this and other LibreOffice lists without
> > having to deal with a ton of emails every day.
>
> Please consider, that this position is your own personal opinion.
> Many other people think differently. I need to download the mails, because I have to work 
> offline some time. Others have very limited and unreliable online connections.
>
> Gmane is probably not the simplest way to manage mailing list even if you consider it to be 
> the best way for you to read them.

Who said anything about managing mailing lists? Gmane provides a way to read and post to a 
mailing list through a newsreader. It is not managing any mail lists.

> So I don't understand why you insist on this point instead of just unsubscribing and 
> re-subscribing with the nomail-option that allows you to send to the list (via Gmane or 
> directly) without receiving *any* of the list mails.

Obviously I have done this since I am posting through Gmane (see the header 
'X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/').

My reason for continuing this issue is so anyone new to this project who sees the option on 
your webpage of using Gmane to read and post to the mailing lists will be able to do so. There 
is no indication that they have to subscribe to the list twice, once at Gmane and again to the 
mailing list itself. There is no need to do so. Subscribing through Gmane would be sufficient.

> Why do you insist on the necessity of unsubscribed postings through Gmane?

They are subscribed at Gmane. It is redundant to have to subscribe twice.

> > Indeed there should be no need to do so.
>
> I could imagine that we will be able to change this once we stopped fighting the much more 
> important topics at the beginning of the Foundation's existence.

I am only trying to clear up some apparent misunderstandings about Gmane and make it easier for 
people to participate in the project.


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Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan   Canada
Website:  http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese



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