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I had some short chat with Oracle representatives they are stating official
""Oracle is investing substantial resources in  With more
than one hundred million users, we believe is the most
advanced, most feature rich open source implementation and will strongly
encourage the Open Office community to continue to contribute through  However, the beauty of open source is that it can
be forked by anyone who chooses, as was done today.  Our sincerest goal
for Open Office is that it become more widely used so if this new
foundation will help advance Open Office and the Open Document Format we
wish them the best.""

In my opinion it means (at this very moment) that there will be OpenOffice.
org and LibreOffice as well.

I don't think it is a problem, why not, if Oracle wants keep OO.o both coul
d developed. We will see if there is real contribution or not.

And anyway the OOo name and rights owned by Oracle so we could do nothing.

Kürti László
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1024 Budapest Kút u. 5

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Paré" <>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:19:21 PM
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Explanation . . . ?

  Le 2010-09-30 15:32, jonathon a écrit :
On 09/29/2010 05:45 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:

If they insist on keeping the trademark given to Sun Microsystems becau
se the community hadn't an entity to claim violations and abuse,

I seriously doubt that Oracle will donate the trademarks to Document

Selling them is a possibility, but the price would probably be for
whatever OOo, as an independent company, would sell for.

As such, all planning should be done on the basis that the project has
been rebranded to LibreOffice.


It wouldn't surprise me if Oracle did hand over the ""
trademark name. They will no doubt have been on this mailist and seen
how many of the localization teams have moved to the LibreOffice group.
I don't think that this change in direction was a big surprise to them
as it wasn't for the "" community. It would be in their
interest as corporate citizens to establish good will with the
"" community, and, as the LibreOffice is happening with or
without the "" name, the game to them is lost. It's just a
matter of clearing all liabilities from their end of their business
model and joining the Document Foundation project along with everyone
else. I don't think that there is any animosity between the group, we
should all be thankful that Sun bought and delivered the code to OSS
regardless of how they may or may not have run the "code" approval
system. Just imagine the pre-StarOffice days, when the only real word
processor in town was MSOffice and Wordperfect had been decimated by its
competitor. Without Sun's generosity, we would not now be in a position
to create a foundation based on an OSS office suite.

So, "hats off" and congratulations first of all to Sun Microsystems who
gave us this wonderful piece of software,  and hopefully, "hats off"
with congratulations and upmost of thanks to Oracle for helping us with
the transition from being under the safety of a corporate umbrella to a
document foundation based on OSS and the sharing of code. Oracle/Sun
would then be remembered as a darling corporation who helped foster OSS
adoption. With a little luck, Oracle could offer support for the
Document Foundation with seed money and hardware facilities/support
until the foundation's business model is put into work and able to stand
on its own financially. This is what happened to Mozilla when it first
set out on its own.

Hopefully, the LibreOffice will be only a temporary and brief episode
and the "" brand will live on along with the great
community that it has always had. Let's keep the lines of communication
open and remain positive.


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