Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

Please take this off discuss@ list, it belongs at best on dev list, QA
list, or user list....discuss list isn't the appropriate place.

You can also report a bug (no clue if you did), it will get closed as
NOTOURBUG if it's not our bug.

Thanks.


Best,
Joel

On 03/11/2016 03:22 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
> On 2016-03-11, 4:11 PM Tanstaafl wrote:
> > On 3/11/2016 4:19 PM, Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 3/11/2016 4:19 PM, Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > No. It is a LibreOffice bug. You broke the usability of LibreOffice
> > > on Macs with your code change.
> > *I* broke it? Sorry Larry I'm just a user like you.
>
> It's obvious that "you" on a product mailing list refers to the
> LibreOffice developers.Quit being pedantic.
>
> > > It worked before.
> > Past performance is no guarantee of future performance.
> >
> > Libreoffice *fixed* a bug that brought to light a Mac bug.
>
> No. LibreOffice broke it's usability on OS X. If it makes a product
> for OS X it should work for OS X as it currently exists.
> It did not bring to light a Mac bug. The requirement for the older
> Apple developed version of Java to be installed has been known for
> several years and is mentioned in the installation notes.
>
> By the way, the bug is in Java. The installation of the old Apple Java
> is the long-known workaround. The current version broke that
> functionality.
>
> > Deal with it.
>
> Yeah. Mac users will deal with it. They'll quit using LibreOffice.
>
> > It isn't Libreoffice's responsibility to 'work around' everyone
> > else's bugs.
>
> It is LibreOffice's responsibility to make their product work on the
> platforms they make it for.
>
> > > Any new user of LibreOffice on Macs will find out the database
> > > doesn't work.
> > No - they will find that a *few* features/functions won't work.
> >
> > The reality is *most* will never know it.
>
> The lack of Java also affects some extensions .
> That is no excuse for making software that doesn't work
>
> > > It is not Apples's responsibility to make your software usable
> > There is a *bug* in Apple's provided JRE package that has been there for
> > a very long time.
> >
> > The Libreoffice devs finally decided to make a change to their code that
> > stops 'working around' Apple's long standing bug (at least thats how I
> > read the comments)...
>
> Actually, it's a bug in Java. You obviously didn't do a lot of
> research. Are you a Mac user?
>
> > There is a simple workaround that *you* can employ - install the JDK -
> > until Apple fixes *their* JRE package bug.
>
> And that fact is not mentioned in the installation instructions or in
> the release note. And until the release of 5.1 there was no need to
> install the JDK. And, unless you are a developer, there is no other
> need for it. Besides, it takes up a lot more disk space on your computer.
>
> I have my own workaround. Use a different product.
>
> This bug will create a very negative impression of LibreOffice among
> Mac users. That is why I keep reiterating that LibreOffice needs to
> fix the problem
>
> Obviously you don't care about Mac users.


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