[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

On 2016-03-11, 4:11 PM Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 3/11/2016 4:19 PM, Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 3/11/2016 4:19 PM, Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > No. It is a LibreOffice bug. You broke the usability of LibreOffice
> > on Macs with your code change.
> *I* broke it? Sorry Larry I'm just a user like you.

It's obvious that "you" on a product mailing list refers to the LibreOffice developers.Quit 
being pedantic.

> > It worked before.
> Past performance is no guarantee of future performance.
>
> Libreoffice *fixed* a bug that brought to light a Mac bug.

No. LibreOffice broke it's usability on OS X. If it makes a product for OS X it should work for 
OS X as it currently exists.
It did not bring to light a Mac bug. The requirement for the older Apple developed version of 
Java to be installed has been known for several years and is mentioned in the installation notes.

By the way, the bug is in Java. The installation of the old Apple Java is the long-known 
workaround. The current version broke that functionality.

> Deal with it.

Yeah. Mac users will deal with it. They'll quit using LibreOffice.

> It isn't Libreoffice's responsibility to 'work around' everyone else's bugs.

It is LibreOffice's responsibility to make their product work on the platforms they make it for.

> > Any new user of LibreOffice on Macs will find out the database
> > doesn't work.
> No - they will find that a *few* features/functions won't work.
>
> The reality is *most* will never know it.

The lack of Java also affects some extensions .
That is no excuse for making software that doesn't work

> > It is not Apples's responsibility to make your software usable
> There is a *bug* in Apple's provided JRE package that has been there for
> a very long time.
>
> The Libreoffice devs finally decided to make a change to their code that
> stops 'working around' Apple's long standing bug (at least thats how I
> read the comments)...

Actually, it's a bug in Java. You obviously didn't do a lot of research. Are you a Mac user?

> There is a simple workaround that *you* can employ - install the JDK -
> until Apple fixes *their* JRE package bug.

And that fact is not mentioned in the installation instructions or in the release note. And 
until the release of 5.1 there was no need to install the JDK. And, unless you are a developer, 
there is no other need for it. Besides, it takes up a lot more disk space on your computer.

I have my own workaround. Use a different product.

This bug will create a very negative impression of LibreOffice among Mac users. That is why I 
keep reiterating that LibreOffice needs to fix the problem

Obviously you don't care about Mac users.

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Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese



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