[tdf-discuss] Re: Referencing systems and bibliographies in LO

In response to Charles:

I am proposing a future set of ideas for discussion about libreoffice and
it's referencing system as I believe it is not very good at the moment
compared to other software open source proprietary in the way that
companies create referencing systems.

ljelly.

On Friday, 13 July 2012, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:

> On 07/12/2012 08:03 PM, lj wrote:
> > If this is is in the wrong place please notify immediately of where I can
> > post this in the right spot! [...]
> >
> > I have a few questions to ask about bibliographic referencing in
> > Libreoffice: (some of these questions and statements are obvious and easy
> > to answer others may not be relevant.
> > Please reply with reasons and answers for disscussion about the
> referencing
> > system [...]:
> This statement summarizes it best IMO:
> > [The] bibliography referencing in Libreoffice, is
> > vastly minimal but then is complex to use the referencing system and to
> > follow the direct steps!
> In my dealings with a few customers I've helped with LibreOffice, they
> have moved to Zotero, a free, open source system to easily gather, share
> and use bibliography references. I am not expert with Zotero, but have
> explored it to determine how it works and what is needed. One important
> problem is you can't reproduce the current sharing/social/public web
> part of the service at zotero.org, but everything else is free, open
> source software.
>
> > 3. compatability does not work between Microsoft Office and Libreoffice
> > with the usage of both referencing systems from either word or
> libreoffice,
> > features are excluded or do not work. (I can ellaborate on these if
> needed
> > to be posted)
> What I've observed is that once users decide to go for LibreOffice, they
> will want to convert to other free,open source software (like Zotero).
> Using both operating systems/applications on either interchangeably
> becomes impractical very quickly. Keep in mind it's rather difficult to
> influence important changes/bug fixes in non-free, non-open source
> software, so it's  a waste of time going that route (in my opinion!). I
> am very biaised about this, though, I encourage you to ask more
> questions and make your own opinion.
>
>
> > 4. Recent versions of Microsoft Office since 2007 have tried to create
> > uncomplex versions of referencing and bibliographic citations. These
> > systems work, but are still limited.
> OneNote seems very popular. Keep in mind Microsoft is a business and
> will do everything it can to make it easy/pleasant/profitable to stay
> with Microsoft Office. Such a system won't exist in LibreOffice in the
> short or even long term specially when specialized 3rd party
> alternatives like Zotero exist and speciall when core functionality in
> LibreOffice is not feature-complete/bug-free yet. Someone / some
> organization would need to be very motivated and have good resources to
> attempt this.
>
> > 5. LO should create a new referencing system.
> See above.
>
> > Questions about referencing in LO: Not in any order.
> > [..]
>
> I lack the time to answer more, hopefully someone else can jump in and
> help here.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fabian Rodriguez
> http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca
>
>
>
>
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