[tdf-discuss] Re: AskLibO blitzes

Hi Pedro,

Le 2012-05-22 05:28, Pedro a écrit :
> Hi Marc
> Marc Paré wrote
> > OpenID is a foundation and yes, it does provide traffic statistics to
> > its members. In our case TDF/LibreOffice could become a member that
> > dispenses OpenID login/passwords
>
> The fact that it is a "Foundation" does not make it trustworthy per se ;)
> Even so since the traffic generated by a TDF/LO OpenID is collected by the
> foundation's servers, the data is available to all, right?

I think this is the way it works. Although, the foundation TDF does 
represent all of us, collectively. Who then can you really trust any 
better than yourself?

> Marc Paré wrote
> > *OpenID is sponsored by many members, does collect demographic
> > information and shares it with groups who carry the OpenID on their
> > site[2 section: "Access rich user profiel data]. If TDF/LibreOffice were
> > to become a member member as well as maintain its own OpenID, the
> > LibreOffice could decide what kind of data is collected.
>
> That is exactly the point :) Why should other companies which I don't have
> any relation with know WHERE and WHEN I logged in?

The majority of websites use analytical aids to monitor traffic on their 
sites. Yes, unfortunately, BIG BROTHER is everywhere.

> Marc Paré wrote
> > It all depends on who you trust as well as the popularity of system. If
> > the TDF/LibreOffice becomes and OpenID provider, then, OpenID user would
> > then put their trust in the TDF/LibreOffice. With BrowserID, we put our
> > trust into the Mozilla Group.
>
> That would be better than putting my trust in Google (a company that
> "accidentally" collects unencrypted wifi data...) but still the login data
> is shared with the other consortium members...
>
> I guess that if I stopped trusting Mozilla I would have to switch browser.
> ALL of my online information is typed on a browser programmed by Mozilla.
> Compared to that, only a small portion of the information is in the hands of
> Google (and that is why I deliberately don't use Chrome)

Hmmm, Mozilla makes the bulk of its operating funds from the "Google 
Search" window. So when you search from this window, I imagine that 
Google is also (with the help of the Mozilla Group) listening in on the 
search patterns of FF users.

> Regardless of who is involved, it appears to me that the BrowserID model
> preserves more your online privacy than the OpenID model...

Regardless of the method, there will always be a primary organism that 
will collect the login/password data. In our case, the data we collect 
would go towards making the site more accessible and more of a fruitful 
event for our users. I don't believe at this point either system is 
better or worse.

Cheers,

Marc


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