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I have some disagreements with some of these statements, but I am a guest
here. I would like to answer queries and concerns, rather than attempt to
change opinions. In other words, I don't see a good way to respond to this,
if that's what you are seeking.


On Jun 5, 2011 10:16 AM, "Simos Xenitellis" <>
What can the Apache Foundation provide to OpenOffice?
1. You start with zero community and you alienate the LibreOffice
2. You will start building a community at some point in the future in
some unknown way.
3. You are developers and can currently only deal with developer needs.
4. Your infrastructure is based on Subversion (SVN) which will make it
for other to share code. Git is not even in the immediate plans.
5. You are happy to get going with 20-30 core developers.
6. The Apache Foundation hosts over 150 projects and I fail to see
any important user-centric software like OpenOffice.

The essential need for the Apache Foundation involvement in this appears
to be
so that IBM can continue to offer a proprietary product, IBM Lotus
License Agreement at

Is IBM is trying to replicate what Sun/Oracle had with StarOffice,
putting just enough resources
for their own needs in order to ship their product?

The Linux kernel is an amazing piece of software that it used in 92%
of Top500 supercomputers,
all sort of servers, mobile phones, most TVs and routers.
And still, there is a single Linux kernel project thanks to the
copyleft license.
Everyone works on Linux because they cannot keep away their own
they have to share them with the community.
Even the ARM architecture, where each ARM licensee went their own way,
is going to get its cleanup.
Because the code for all of them is already in the Linux kernel

IBM makes money out of Linux by providing services. And IBM is even a
top contributor to the Linux kernel.
Would IBM hypothetically prefer to have the Linux kernel developed
under the Apache Foundation?

OO/LO are in this critical point where they can repeat the Linux
copyleft success story
and help ODF dominate the document formats.

OO/LO is a complicated piece of code and will probably require big
architectural changes.
Having an Apache OpenOffice and a LibreOffice will slow down progress
in major changes.


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