[tdf-discuss] Re: TDF/LO on a wrong way?

Hi Alexander:

Le 2010-12-14 11:04, Alexander Thurgood a écrit :

> The German group is debating at the moment as to the
> appropriateness of even making their site live if the English site is
> still considered "under development", incomplete or dare I say it "too
> verbose". As far as I know, the French group is ready to go. I have no
> idea about the others, as I'm not subscribed to any of the other
> language specific groups. This is what I mean by lack of a centralized
> body making decisions. We could all just hang around for another 3
> months, or actually put the sites up. Who ultimately makes those
> decisions ? Does it really matter anyway, so long as we are providing
> our respective communities with relevant information ?

I am sure that once David has completed the bulk of the uploading of the 
content on the Silverstripe, he will consider input from members who 
would like to offer comments on the site. He is doing an incredible job 
at constructing the site in such a quick week after the site had 
remained empty for so long. There are a few other members who had 
offered help but due to different circumstances could not do so as much 
as hoped at the time. It looks like the English site will be ready to go 
in a matter of very few days and at this point I am sure if David needs 
any other help that it will be easier for members to fill in the smaller 
documentation needs than that of the whole site.

> I certainly can't speak for the SC on those questions, or the governing
> board as and when it manages to materialise.
>
> My point is that people doubted what had been decided with regard to
> what was supposed to be happening and that this doubt is the result of a
> lack of clearly transcribed decision making, or alternatively a lack of
> sufficient communication towards those members of the community who are
> volunteering to do the work. Yes, people can read the transcripts of the
> conference calls, but what they need are easily accessible header points
> clearly stating where we are going, how we are going to achieve it, and
> the estimated time frame for doing so. I don't mean just with regard to
> the website, I mean with regard to the project as a whole.
>
> If you look at the documentation, you will see we are in a similar
> quandry / state of flux with regard to how we are getting organised,
> which workflow we will be using and which tools are adapted to that
> task. In my experience, Direction doesn't just occur through Brownian
> motion, it is given by leadership in some shape or form (not that I wish
> to be the leader by any means). It is the general overall fuzziness at
> the moment which leaves me somewhat perplexed, and I can't see this
> being resolved until a legal entity is in place that will have some form
> of system to channel people's ardours and optimise and harness their
> willingness to contribute to the project.
>
> Just my 2c.
>
>
> Alex

Then, IMO, the Drupal devs should have people trying out and testing the 
completed modules and getting it ready for content. Once tested, it 
would stand to reason that content could be put up on the Drupal site in 
anticipation of a full roll out of the site. I cannot see a problem with 
the static pages being prepared on the site.

Maybe Michael, our Drupal lead dev. could chime in here and list the 
pages/modules that could be tested and from there a plan to upload 
content would be worked out. Here is the wiki page where are listed the 
modules and their present status: 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Drupal_Modules.

I know that the site's theme is still being worked on. Once this is 
done, it will be quicker and more pleasant to shape the site along with 
some content.

I, for one, encourage people to sign up to work on the Drupal site. If 
there are any language concerns, these can be overcome somehow. IMO, I 
would be happier if we had more representation from different 
language-group dev's familiar with Drupal joining in and helping out. 
Some groups are quite under-represented or not represented at all on the 
Drupal team. I am sure there are other Drupal devs on the language 
groups who could also join in. This would make for a richer community 
driven site.

It may just be that at this point, we should have Michael offer a quick 
summary of Drupal site's progress, what needs testing, and if content 
can already be prepared for some pages.

Cheers

Marc
Drupal Web Dev. Team Member




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