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Hi Florian,

after reading some of the replies, I still need to sort that out ;-)

Am Montag, den 29.11.2010, 12:51 +0100 schrieb Florian Effenberger:
Because of the missing working space for accessibility issues, I
already > added that topic to the "Design" wiki page draft some days
ago [1]. > Thus, from my point-of-view, we may add this to the
LibreOffice Design team mailing list as well ... as a starting point.

I guess the main concern is, that especially for people in need of 
accessibility, following large mail threads not related to that topic,
can be a problem - so a dedicated list indeed might make sense. 

So we do talk about several things here:
     1. People (with disabilities) who might want to work with other
        contributors (developers, UX people, ...) to improve
        accessibility. Or, the might want to discuss their experience
        with the product.
     2. Contributors who design features and workflows that are - per se
        - accessible. Let's say, that this is a basic criteria if
        something gets added/changed within LibreOffice.
     3. Contributors who deal with assistive technology that enables
        users with disabilities to access both the software and the

Concerning 1: Here, I do understand the request for lower volume mailing
lists. But I do think that this is an international issue - not only
limited to English. But at least, an international a11y-users list (or
however it is called) may make sense. But, we have to make sure that
contributors are aware of that.

Concerning 2: This is what I had in mind when I initially replied to
your mail. To me, it makes some sense to combine both the workflow and
UI design along with accessibility. To me, it is not about providing
"any UI" that will be made available via assistive technology, moreover,
it should be worked on right from the start.

Concerning 3: This is the more technical part of a11y - and a very
important one. Here, it might make sense to get (at least) a special
interest group or a team. But I'm unable to suggest what they might need
to do a proper job :-)

Okay, rather statements, limited number of proposals. Pick any :-)


PS: I don't think that LibO fails here; OOo was not that bad - as far as
I remember. Our job is to continue to work on, and to improve the
accessibility of LibO.

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