Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

On 11/22/2010 11:50 AM, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:52:41PM +0000, Lee Hyde wrote:
> > original poster is making. Windows users are presented with a single
> > setup.exe while debian/ubuntu users are presented with a multitude of
> > individual .deb files. This is not user friendly!
> Nonsense. dpkg -i *.deb is user friendly, despite what you want to claim.
> That graphical tools might make it difficult is no argument.
>
> > On 22/11/10 15:07, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> > > There is no goddamn need for it. (That Ubuntu people in 90% of cases have
> > > no clue how they do basic system tasks doesn't make it more needed)
> > This is a rather hostile attitude to show towards end users and an
> If those end users don't think, yes, you're right.
>
> > based operating systems in the past. If your position were to be taken
> > to its logical conclusion we should scrap LibreOffice, which afterall is
> > pandering to the masses with its use of GUI and WYSIWYG, in favour of TeX.
> No, my position taken to the logical conclusion would not be that (as I think
> there's use cases for GUIs - I didn't say anything against them here but just
> mentioned that dpkg is basics - we don't need GUIs but that we need a "drivers license"
> for computers. Mandatory for everyone who wants to use PCs.
>
> The same as if you would not be allowed to drive a car if you don't know where
> the steering wheel or the gas pedal is, neither would you be allowed to use a gear car
> when you only know automatic.
>
> Learn basics, or live with people telling you that you need to look at basics before
> you do stuff.
>
> Grüße/Regards,
>
> René
Personally I think that the mailing list admin needs to message these 
people. Libre and FLOSS by definition are for the "ignorant" masses and 
not for the select few who don't care for a visual experience. It is sad 
to see people flaming new users so soon after this project was started.

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