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On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 11:57 +0100, Gianluca Turconi wrote:
Il 04/11/2010 16.56, Italo Vignoli ha scritto:
The community cannot issue formal certifications about software, and
this is where the OOo project has missed the point.

I know it.

Nevertheless, a foundation isn't needed to start a certification program.

Any vendor may start it, with more or less official and international 

And, by saying the truth, why a TDF certification program should be 
better than a hypothetical "IBM LIbO certified professional" label, in a 
wider Community?

Certification is based on confidence. Large vendors putting their name
on certification helps in that process. However, there are other
considerations. Here in the UK, unless training leads to a government
accredited certification it won't get funded. That means in practice no
FE College is going to offer that certification and you are confining
your market to the private sector. In addition, in Europe it is a high
priority for National Qualifications frameworks and their associated
qualifications to be referenced to the European Qualifications
Framework. This can attract funding from the EU into the project and
give further confidence in the certification. 

So what I said to the OOo community about 6 years ago was that
certification provided an opportunity to get an income for development
that was independent of Sun. I guess I explained it badly :-)

Sure anyone could make a certification program - *If* they have the
professional knowledge and will to make it work. Its not as simple as
just printing certificates ;-) But if there is a desire for an
independent LO foundation it also provides an opportunity to sustain it.

I'm surely missing something, but *as far as what I've read in this list 
is concerned*, this foundation is starting to appear like an empty box: 
few needs to exist and even less powers.

Please, get me right, I'm really trying to understand, because I've read 
several different opinions from TDF founders and I know a consensus has 
still to be found about this matter. However, the vehemence of some 
voices let me think that a majority may already exist in your group, 
although there hasn't been a vote yet.

Or, at least, that any decision different from the opinion expressed, 
for example, by Michael Meeks, may cause more problems than anything 
else during the foundation start-up phase, independently of the fair 
evaluation of the alternatives.

Gianluca Turconi

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