I am adding this post that from Bjoern Michaelsen as well as my reply
for you to consider. -- Marc
Le 2012-10-06 12:26, Bjoern Michaelsen a écrit :
> - Marketing and Marketing US should be joined (unless we have a 20
> marketing team that I dont know about and that would overwhelm
the rest with
> their posts)
Not sure about this. We were given the mandate to concentrate on the US
market specifically. You may have noticed that there are already few
mails on the US mailing list (of which I am part), but I believe that we
are set to re-buid post-LibOCon. From what I can see, the largest
problem with the US is the lack of marcons for the group, which has
always been front-and-centre of all serious discussions. I would favour
keeping the US separate and closing the mailing list. The US-forums will
get better exposure on the forums and be able to get more participation
from the general user-population.
> - 'Installation and Configuration' for all non-Windows users should
> While we have enough Linux talent to warrent an own forum,
> on OSX the userbase is thinner and the linux users can often help
out on OSX too
no problem with this.
> - LibreOffice Applications should start as _one_ buzzing forum when
> 'open beta'-testing of the forum. Once we announce the forum as
> we can split out forums from there _if_ they warrant that by
not sure if I like that idea. I would rather see what most users looking
for help are looking for on arrival on our forums -- a breakdown in
forums where they can locate their application section and leave a
message. Sending our users in need of help to a soup-bowl mix of
messages will only confuse them and add more stress. I would rather have
the obvious breakdown on our forums site. If there are alpha-beta
problems with any of the modules, then it would seem to me better for
our users to see them already in their own categories.
This will also help devs who are monitoring the forums to zoom in on
their own particular interests.
I would rather see the bulk of our philosophy with regards to the user
forums to be that of helping out users. From there, the contributors can
extrapolate the data they need to bug report and to trouble-shoot or to
> - Templates are unlikely to support a forum on their own from the
Yup, but on the other hand, it is a good collection point where we can
encourage ideas on templates and hope some devs will pick up on it. Its
a two-way street. If we hope to attract users to our contributor
forums/mailing lists, then we should also hope to attract devs to our
user forums. Let's give this one a shot. I am interested in this one,
particularly considering the lack of template ideas on the lists. It
will be a good collection point for ideas.
> I would suggest to split 'Extensions LibreOffice' into 'Extension
> Support' and 'Extension developement (incl. macro and UNO)'.
No problem with the name change. I think users would have an easy time
reading into it.
> Also we have way too many meta- and announcement forums in the
> will lead to cross-posting and people missing out on announcements
> only check one forum etc.
> Everything we say 'officially' to our users should be relevant to our
> contributors. And since we want our users to become contributors, we
> exclude them from 'contributor announcements'. Thus join those forums.
No argument with this. Sure, sounds reasonable to join both
Announcement/News forums into one. I would suggest leaving this at the
top of the list, so that it is the first forums for all to see.
> Discuss should be joined into 'projects' (the third forum with
> the description). If you 'discuss matters affecting the LibreOffice
> should better be relevant to the projects too.
I have no problems with this either. Although, I can see others having
problems with it. I was never too clear on what the "projects" mailing
list was all about as it seems we are all advertising on it and
discussions are happening more and more on it. It may be better to have
a "Discuss" forum with a sub-forum "Projects" where only decided
projects are announced. The discuss list is very active and it is hard
to pull projects from any of the threads.
BTW, both of these threads are quite active.
> Finally, 'LibreOffice goes social/Lounge/Off the wall/whatever' can
> name that wins the competition, but it should _not_ have LibreOffice
or TDF in
> the title as it is specifically intended to be for offtopic stuff.
> having that forum is essential, if only to be able to move irrelevant or
> offtopic posts from other forums there without offending the author
> (compared to deleting).
Not sure about this. I would prefer the marketing punch of a LibOLounge
(where some of the characters look like :-b) or any other clever stuff
that our user-base can come up in a competition. and, we should have a
disclaimer sticky on it as well as the rules for off-topic
conversations. We should not be afraid to stick our name in on the "fun
room" rather than have it only associated with the serious part of the
project. Life is too short.
> My two eurocents.
Thanks for your comments. I'll copy/paste your comments to the user
forums (part of your message past your QA-Dev suggestion) to the discuss
list where the discussion on the user portion is taking place and where
the discuss team can also read your comments.
We decided to place a note on each mailing list that was mentioned on
the forums proposal in the hopes of getting some feedback from the teams.
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