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On 6/8/11 5:59 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

I think that should OOo not be approved as an incubator podling,
then there are 3 main options.

I sincerely hope that OOo is approved as an incubator podling, because any other option would be a defeat for free software in general and for OOo in particular. Of course, TDF would have preferred a different path of evolution, but I understand that the non copy-left license (which we don't like) is a factor for IBM for having the project at ASF.

I will say that it is unfortunate that there is sooo much distrust
on both sides, because it really prevents us from having the type
of open and honest discussions required. There are people who see
TDF's resistance to working with the ASF as a simple ploy to get
the ASF to donate the code (and trademark) to them, acting for what
seems as what is in their best interest, rather than the best interest
of the community in general. Same as those who see the ASF as more
interested in "taking over" than in working with people.

I think that we should look more at what we can get from each other than everything else. Speaking from TDF side, I have seen ASF too much confident in its ability to manage whichever FLOSS project. TDF knows more about OOo than most other people (I think that the analisys of the files donated by Oracle is a demonstration, and shows co-operation), at any level, and should be respected for that.

On the other hand, ASF members should start building their opinions about TDF from other sources than the rumors spread by individuals who, for personal reasons, do not like TDF (you can find any flavour of them around the Internet, and some of them have signed as committers).

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