Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 6/8/11 5:59 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

> I think that should OOo not be approved as an incubator podling,
> then there are 3 main options.

I sincerely hope that OOo is approved as an incubator podling, because 
any other option would be a defeat for free software in general and for 
OOo in particular. Of course, TDF would have preferred a different path 
of evolution, but I understand that the non copy-left license (which we 
don't like) is a factor for IBM for having the project at ASF.

> I will say that it is unfortunate that there is sooo much distrust
> on both sides, because it really prevents us from having the type
> of open and honest discussions required. There are people who see
> TDF's resistance to working with the ASF as a simple ploy to get
> the ASF to donate the code (and trademark) to them, acting for what
> seems as what is in their best interest, rather than the best interest
> of the community in general. Same as those who see the ASF as more
> interested in "taking over" than in working with people.

I think that we should look more at what we can get from each other than 
everything else. Speaking from TDF side, I have seen ASF too much 
confident in its ability to manage whichever FLOSS project. TDF knows 
more about OOo than most other people (I think that the analisys of the 
files donated by Oracle is a demonstration, and shows co-operation), at 
any level, and should be respected for that.

On the other hand, ASF members should start building their opinions 
about TDF from other sources than the rumors spread by individuals who, 
for personal reasons, do not like TDF (you can find any flavour of them 
around the Internet, and some of them have signed as committers).

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