Re: [tdf-discuss] European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

Is there anything folks outside of Europe can do to assist?  Let us know.

     ----Jon (in U.S.)

On 04/08/2011 07:04 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Hello James,
>
> First of all I have to insist on the importance of writing to your MEP, it
> actually has more weight than many people believe.
> When I'm not working on the Document Foundation, I run a small consultancy
> with activities in european public policies. In other words, I'm trying to
> say that there are specific ways to act and that TDF is far from being the
> only choice.
>
> This being said, if all it takes is a petition from FSFE and others, we
> could associate ourselves with that with pleasure and enthusiasm.
>
> One last comment however: if you guys feel disappointed that the European
> Commission goes against the very own principles it has pushed forward, it's
> important to realize that the EC is very permeable to external influences,
> especially influences that come with large financial incentives or threats.
> But that's a broader topic than the one we're discussing here :-)
>
> Best,
>
> Charles.
>
>
> 2011/4/7 James Wilde<james.wilde@sunde-wilde.com>
>
> > On Apr 5, 2011, at 14:56 , Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> >
> > > Laszlo,
> > >
> > > It is not up to TDF to do something, but we have to act, each of us,
> > > individually and collectively to make sure we get results .
> > Pardon me, Charles, but if TDF don't, who will?  Who should be questioning
> > the policy of the EC in not taking in alternatives or even considering the
> > viability of alternatives?  Who is going to challenge the legality of these
> > decisions?
> >
> > Even if 10%, 50% or even 100% of the people subscribed to this list all
> > emailed their euro-MP, how much effect would that have?  But if two or three
> > of the steering committee were to approach the authorities, including
> > whatever organ within the EU it is that oversees fair play and the following
> > of EU policies, then we individuals could send details of that approach to
> > our local newspapers and television companies with some hope of being taken
> > seriously.
> >
> > In the US there is apparently a marketing list.  Isn't there one in the EU
> > or one - or more - member countries?
> >
> > //James
> >
> > > Le Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:22:24 +0200 (CEST),
> > > Kürti László<kurti.laszlo@openskm.com>  a écrit :
> > >
> > > > Charles,
> > > >
> > > > I was asking the European members personally! to take something
> > > > against it. We here in Hungary spent the last 5 years with lobbying
> > > > for only to let the FLOSS into the public sector. Earlier it was not
> > > > possible. We had some positive results 'cause we could refer the EU
> > > > policies. But if the EC don't give ...t what can I say? I tell you,
> > > > nothing! And really all the national governments will be more than
> > > > happy to find an excuse not to do anything for interoperability, for
> > > > standardization and for freedom.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If we?, you? (TDF) have the will and members stand behind this case
> > > > than we have a chance.
> > > >
> > > > Yes we must act an intelligent way but first of all we must act.
> > > >
> > > > Laszlo
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Charles-H. Schulz"<charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org>
> > > > To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2011 11:16:58 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] European Commitee enter talks with MS
> > > > licences,    Please make your action today against it.
> > > >
> > > > Hello Laszlo,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Le Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:42:10 +0200 (CEST),
> > > > Kürti László<kurti.laszlo@openskm.com>  a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry for this off topic but this is serious
> > http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/print/9215419/EC_enters_talks_with_Microsoft_for_new_licenses?taxonomyName=IT+in+Government&taxonomyId=13
> > > > > If this come true than we (LibreOffice an other FLOSS products) will
> > > > > be down and out, buried by dust for ever, governments do not need
> > > > > better excuse than this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please make your action today:
> > > > > blog about, send a mail to your member of EP, tell the local media
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I would not be as pessimistic as you are, the EC is unfortunately a
> > > > MS shop, but there is certainly ground to protest; I'd suggest you use
> > > > other, more focused initiatives than this list to take action:
> > http://interopwikiproject.com/public-procurement:ec-pushes-ahead-with-windows-7-migration
> > > > Best,
> > > > Charles.
> > > >
> > > > > Thx
> > > > > Laszlo
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Kürti László
> > > > > Open SKM Agency Kft.
> > > > > 1024 Budapest Kút u. 5
> > > > > www.openskm.com
> > > > > kurti.laszlo@openskm.com
> > > > > (+36-1)-788-6556
> > >
> > >
> > >
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