Re: [tdf-discuss] European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

Hello James,

First of all I have to insist on the importance of writing to your MEP, it
actually has more weight than many people believe.
When I'm not working on the Document Foundation, I run a small consultancy
with activities in european public policies. In other words, I'm trying to
say that there are specific ways to act and that TDF is far from being the
only choice.

This being said, if all it takes is a petition from FSFE and others, we
could associate ourselves with that with pleasure and enthusiasm.

One last comment however: if you guys feel disappointed that the European
Commission goes against the very own principles it has pushed forward, it's
important to realize that the EC is very permeable to external influences,
especially influences that come with large financial incentives or threats.
But that's a broader topic than the one we're discussing here :-)

Best,

Charles.


2011/4/7 James Wilde <james.wilde@sunde-wilde.com>

> On Apr 5, 2011, at 14:56 , Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
>
> > Laszlo,
> >
> > It is not up to TDF to do something, but we have to act, each of us,
> > individually and collectively to make sure we get results .
> Pardon me, Charles, but if TDF don't, who will?  Who should be questioning
> the policy of the EC in not taking in alternatives or even considering the
> viability of alternatives?  Who is going to challenge the legality of these
> decisions?
>
> Even if 10%, 50% or even 100% of the people subscribed to this list all
> emailed their euro-MP, how much effect would that have?  But if two or three
> of the steering committee were to approach the authorities, including
> whatever organ within the EU it is that oversees fair play and the following
> of EU policies, then we individuals could send details of that approach to
> our local newspapers and television companies with some hope of being taken
> seriously.
>
> In the US there is apparently a marketing list.  Isn't there one in the EU
> or one - or more - member countries?
>
> //James
>
> > Le Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:22:24 +0200 (CEST),
> > Kürti László <kurti.laszlo@openskm.com> a écrit :
> >
> > > Charles,
> > >
> > > I was asking the European members personally! to take something
> > > against it. We here in Hungary spent the last 5 years with lobbying
> > > for only to let the FLOSS into the public sector. Earlier it was not
> > > possible. We had some positive results 'cause we could refer the EU
> > > policies. But if the EC don't give ...t what can I say? I tell you,
> > > nothing! And really all the national governments will be more than
> > > happy to find an excuse not to do anything for interoperability, for
> > > standardization and for freedom.
> > >
> > >
> > > If we?, you? (TDF) have the will and members stand behind this case
> > > than we have a chance.
> > >
> > > Yes we must act an intelligent way but first of all we must act.
> > >
> > > Laszlo
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Charles-H. Schulz" <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org>
> > > To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2011 11:16:58 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] European Commitee enter talks with MS
> > > licences,    Please make your action today against it.
> > >
> > > Hello Laszlo,
> > >
> > >
> > > Le Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:42:10 +0200 (CEST),
> > > Kürti László <kurti.laszlo@openskm.com> a écrit :
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for this off topic but this is serious
> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/print/9215419/EC_enters_talks_with_Microsoft_for_new_licenses?taxonomyName=IT+in+Government&taxonomyId=13
> > > > If this come true than we (LibreOffice an other FLOSS products) will
> > > > be down and out, buried by dust for ever, governments do not need
> > > > better excuse than this.
> > > >
> > > > Please make your action today:
> > > > blog about, send a mail to your member of EP, tell the local media
> > >
> > >
> > > I would not be as pessimistic as you are, the EC is unfortunately a
> > > MS shop, but there is certainly ground to protest; I'd suggest you use
> > > other, more focused initiatives than this list to take action:
> http://interopwikiproject.com/public-procurement:ec-pushes-ahead-with-windows-7-migration
> > > Best,
> > > Charles.
> > >
> > > > Thx
> > > > Laszlo
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Kürti László
> > > > Open SKM Agency Kft.
> > > > 1024 Budapest Kút u. 5
> > > > www.openskm.com
> > > > kurti.laszlo@openskm.com
> > > > (+36-1)-788-6556
> >
> >
> >
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