I think this kind of wiki pages may be high quality ones!
So I think they are welcome and very useful like, however, many other
high level wikis.
With reference to the migration wiki I would underline the need of a
macro and VBA migration wiki. With also some looks to the next
LibreOffice Calc Engine (or "Spread" as well as Barbara Duprey likes ;-)
so that people already know where we are going to.
I talk about macros and VBA because, e.g., in Italy we have  some
important solar energy system design Excel 2007 (or upper) sheets also
for economic evaluation and time economic simulation and one sheet for
building energetic certification.
- "SIMULARE_9.xlsm" by eng. Alessandro Caffarelli;
- "Certificare_1.0.xls" by eng. Giovanna de Simone
are free released by they are working only on Microsoft Excle 2007 (or
upper). I already contact them (the two engineers) explait them OOo 3.3,
TDF, Libò 3.3, multi-platform, openness, open licenses, ...: they
understand and agree to the values but at the moment they have no time
to migrate (and re teach themselves another Office suite).
The two engineers are working in Rome also in a high quality spin off of
the Università degli Studi di Roma "TOR Vergata", one of Rome's
So, may be I (and/or other people) will tray (in the next future and
speaking with the two enginners) to convert/migrate these useful sheets
to spread this software "market" for a better energy quality World and
so I could appreciate the wiki and I could also integrate it with new
My 2 cents.
Il 16/01/2011 12:49, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto:
I believe that Olivier has a point here, but Francesc (welcome,
Francesc!) has an interesting idea. Wiki pages collecting
methodologies, feedback on migrations, knowledge, etc. can only help
rising the level of service providers and help even our developers and
marketeers gain a deeper understanding of these issues. In fact I could
go even further and claim there aren''t many people who have a solid
understanding of these matters, even here.
So I would like to support the creation of this "workgroup" (let's be
informal here), knowing that indeed it cannot replace actual
consultancy but can generate interesting and valubale materials.
Francesc, please feel free to open page(s) on the wiki:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org, I'll be glad to help if I can , and
perhaps would Olivier add some more content too :-)
Le Sun, 16 Jan 2011 09:03:48 -0200,
Olivier Hallot<firstname.lastname@example.org> a écrit :
I am working on a 120.000 desktop migration. I think I saw many
things that is good and evil.
This is a change management project, and you can put it entirely into
a PMBOK vanilla change management project. That does not means it
will be easy to execute.
Vendor lock-in thru specific proprietary extensions in migration
projects is the holy grail of all users that hate the idea of loosing
their beloved old and costly proprietary suite. If you fix this, they
will cut their wrists and bleed to death. Beware! :-)
You may publish tons of recomendations in a workgroup for this
purpose, it will not avoid the need of a high qualified consultancy
in migration. Whoever attemps to migrate large corporation just
reading a couple of pages if doomed. You don't do change management
that big without external help.
Em 15-01-2011 12:30, Francesc Mediterranean escreveu:
I write to you to ask for your opinion relating to the evolution of
libreoffice. I believe that could be very interesting to create a
group for the creation of the methodology of migration of
libroffice . I propose that the group should be called "Process&
In my opinion, we must create the element to solve the change
between MS office to Libre office, that is the methodology of
migration / implementatin, defining the phases to developing, the
content of this phases, the priorización, and other.
From here I offer volunteer to initiate the development of this
methodology, because I believe that it will be the tipping point,
to promote the presence of libreoffice in the companies and public
I will be grateful for your comments
Francesc X. Berjano
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