Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal of workgroup creation...

I think this kind of wiki pages may be high quality ones!

So I think they are welcome and very useful like, however, many other 
high level wikis.

With reference to the migration wiki I would underline the need of a 
macro and VBA migration wiki. With also some looks to the next 
LibreOffice Calc Engine (or "Spread" as well as Barbara Duprey likes ;-) 
so that people already know where we are going to.

I talk about macros and VBA because, e.g., in Italy we have [1] some 
important solar energy system design Excel 2007 (or upper) sheets also 
for economic evaluation and time economic simulation and one sheet for 
building energetic certification.

These sheets:
- "SIMULARE_9.xlsm" by eng. Alessandro Caffarelli;
- "Certificare_1.0.xls" by eng. Giovanna de Simone

are free released by they are working only on Microsoft Excle 2007 (or 
upper). I already contact them (the two engineers) explait them OOo 3.3, 
TDF, Libò 3.3, multi-platform, openness, open licenses, ...: they 
understand and agree to the values but at the moment they have no time 
to migrate (and re teach themselves another Office suite).

The two engineers are working in Rome also in a high quality spin off of 
the Università degli Studi di Roma "TOR Vergata", one of Rome's 
Universities.

So, may be I (and/or other people) will tray (in the next future and 
speaking with the two enginners) to convert/migrate these useful sheets 
to spread this software "market" for a better energy quality World and 
so I could appreciate the wiki and I could also integrate it with new 
content.

My 2 cents.

Carlo

p.s.

[1]
http://www.ingalessandrocaffarelli.it/
http://giovannadesimone.wordpress.com/
http://www.ingegneri.cc/
http://www.energeticambiente.it/

http://www.ingegneri.cc/articolo/3798/Disponibile-gratuitamente-nuovo-simulatore-fotovoltaico-in-Conto-Energia-2011
http://giovannadesimone.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/software-gratuito-per-la-certificazione-energetica-degli-edifici/


Il 16/01/2011 12:49, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto:
> Hi,
>
> I believe that Olivier has a point here, but Francesc (welcome,
> Francesc!) has an interesting idea. Wiki pages collecting
> methodologies, feedback on migrations, knowledge, etc. can only help
> rising the level of service providers and help even our developers and
> marketeers gain a deeper understanding of these issues. In fact I could
> go even further and claim there aren''t many people who have a solid
> understanding of these matters, even here.
>
> So I would like to support the creation of this "workgroup" (let's be
> informal here), knowing that indeed it cannot replace actual
> consultancy but can generate interesting and valubale materials.
>
> Francesc, please feel free to open page(s) on the wiki:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org, I'll be glad to help if I can , and
> perhaps would Olivier add some more content too :-)
>
> Best,
>
> Charles.
>
>
> Le Sun, 16 Jan 2011 09:03:48 -0200,
> Olivier Hallot<olivier.hallot@documentfoundation.org>  a écrit :
>
> > Francesc,
> > I am working on a 120.000 desktop migration. I think I saw many
> > things that is good and evil.
> >
> > This is a change management project, and you can put it entirely into
> > a PMBOK vanilla change management project. That does not means it
> > will be easy to execute.
> >
> > Vendor lock-in thru specific proprietary extensions in migration
> > projects is the holy grail of all users that hate the idea of loosing
> > their beloved old and costly proprietary suite. If you fix this, they
> > will cut their wrists and bleed to death. Beware! :-)
> >
> > You may publish tons of recomendations in a workgroup for this
> > purpose, it will not avoid the need of a high qualified consultancy
> > in migration. Whoever attemps to migrate large corporation just
> > reading a couple of pages if doomed. You don't do change management
> > that big without external help.
> >
> > Olivier
> >
> > Em 15-01-2011 12:30, Francesc Mediterranean escreveu:
> > > Dear colleagues,
> > >
> > >
> > > I write to you to ask for your opinion relating to the evolution of
> > > libreoffice. I believe that could be very interesting to create a
> > > group for the creation of the methodology of migration of
> > > libroffice . I propose that the group should be called "Process&
> > > Methodology"
> > >
> > > In my opinion, we must create the element to solve the change
> > > between MS office to Libre office, that is the methodology of
> > > migration / implementatin, defining the phases to developing, the
> > > content of this phases, the priorización, and other.
> > >
> > > >  From here I offer volunteer to initiate the development of this
> > > > methodology, because I believe that it will be the tipping point,
> > > > to promote the presence of libreoffice in the companies and public
> > > > organizations,
> > >
> > >
> > > I will be grateful for your comments
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > > Francesc X. Berjano
> > > Mail:francesc@mediterranean-consulting.com
> > > Twitter; @fxberjano
> > > Skype: FX_Mediterranean

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