Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Co-working with Moz, etc

Are you talking about in addition to having an installable version of LO?

On 1/3/11 1:26 AM, Jaime R. Garza wrote:
> Hello Jonathan,
>
> Google only converts to ODF, they use their own proprietary file format
> natively, they don't use ODF natively and they don't have as much
> functionality as LO. You can use Google Docs with a Google account as you
> can use MS Docs with a Facebook account.
>
> Problems:
> - None of them use ODF natively, they just export to ODF.
> - None of them you can install locally.
> - None of them are Open Source.
>
> It's like if we asked: Why do we make Libre Office if MS is already giving
> MS Office for free?
>
> Think about is, it would be much simple to develop a HTML5 Libre Office,
> because it is by nature platform independent and you can install it locally.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Jaime R. Garza
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 01:03, Jonathan Aquilina<eagles051387@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Jaime I believe on previous posts on this thread or another one that TDF is
> > working on getting Google to support the ODF format. why create something
> > that has already been done by Google?
> >
> >
> > On 1/3/11 12:54 AM, Jaime R. Garza wrote:
> >
> > > As I said before, Cloud based Office Suites are becoming more mature, I
> > > think LO should start developing an HTML5 browser based office and ideally
> > > integrate it with Zimbra!
> > >
> > > It would be great to install LO locally and be able to share it through
> > > the
> > > web to others from your computer without any further installation
> > > necessary.
> > >
> > > Enterprises could make only one installation on a huge server and anyone
> > > could use it directly from the browser, and Cloud companies like Amazon
> > > could just upload an image and make it available for all their customers.
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Jaime R. Garza
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 00:33, Jonathan Aquilina<eagles051387@gmail.com
> > > > wrote:
> > >   Zimbra is exactly what would push LO to be a serious threat to Microsoft
> > > > Office. Isn't that what the goal is of this project to slowly eat away at
> > > > Microsoft's majority market share?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 1/2/11 10:00 PM, NoOp wrote:
> > > >
> > > >   On 01/02/2011 10:49 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:
> > > > >   On 2011-01-01 1:43 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> > > > > >   Whats really held OOo and will hold LO back is the lack of an
> > > > > > > equivalent
> > > > > > > program such as outlook.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Well, I disagree, but there is no way to prove one of us is right,
> > > > > > so...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   There are one of three ways it can be done.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) fork something like evolution which has all that done and integrate
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > into the LO suite
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Evolution is extremely buggy, *especially* on Windows, but yes, even
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > *nix... Yes, there are many people who run it without problems, but
> > > > > > there are far more who complain of constant crashes and bugs, even on
> > > > > > the stablest of systems (otherwise)...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   2) or install software that already exists in the open source arena.
> > > > > > Thunderbird+Lightning would be the best other choice here...not perfect
> > > > > > by any stretch, but the only viable FLOSS alternative on Windows at the
> > > > > > moment, at least that I am aware of...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   the problem with 2 is that it will greatly increase the download size,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > would pose issues for people with slow bandwidth.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Thunderbird+Lightning is not that big...
> > > > > >   Might be worth considering collaborating with Zimbra:
> > > > > http://www.zimbra.com/
> > > > > I found this interesting:
> > > > > <
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.zimbra.com/forums/developers/37811-openoffice-org-integration-google-docs-zoho.html
> > > > > The guy was using "SuSE build of OOo 3.2".
> > > > >
> > > > > I generally use SeaMonkey, but I've been experimenting with Zimbra
> > > > > Desktop lately&    it seems to be an interesting alternative w/calendar,
> > > > > Document, Briefcase, etc. And it's open source:
> > > > > http://www.zimbra.com/about/
> > > > > albeit with their own ZPL:
> > > > > http://www.zimbra.com/downloads/os-downloads.html
> > > > >
> > > > > A tie-in with LibO&    Zimbra would be about as close as MS
> > > > > Outlook/Office
> > > > > (I'm not referring to Outlook Express) with a multiplatform environment.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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