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Hello Jonathan,

Google only converts to ODF, they use their own proprietary file format
natively, they don't use ODF natively and they don't have as much
functionality as LO. You can use Google Docs with a Google account as you
can use MS Docs with a Facebook account.

- None of them use ODF natively, they just export to ODF.
- None of them you can install locally.
- None of them are Open Source.

It's like if we asked: Why do we make Libre Office if MS is already giving
MS Office for free?

Think about is, it would be much simple to develop a HTML5 Libre Office,
because it is by nature platform independent and you can install it locally.


Jaime R. Garza

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 01:03, Jonathan Aquilina <>wrote:

Jaime I believe on previous posts on this thread or another one that TDF is
working on getting Google to support the ODF format. why create something
that has already been done by Google?

On 1/3/11 12:54 AM, Jaime R. Garza wrote:

As I said before, Cloud based Office Suites are becoming more mature, I
think LO should start developing an HTML5 browser based office and ideally
integrate it with Zimbra!

It would be great to install LO locally and be able to share it through
web to others from your computer without any further installation

Enterprises could make only one installation on a huge server and anyone
could use it directly from the browser, and Cloud companies like Amazon
could just upload an image and make it available for all their customers.


Jaime R. Garza

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 00:33, Jonathan Aquilina<

 Zimbra is exactly what would push LO to be a serious threat to Microsoft
Office. Isn't that what the goal is of this project to slowly eat away at
Microsoft's majority market share?

On 1/2/11 10:00 PM, NoOp wrote:

 On 01/02/2011 10:49 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:

 On 2011-01-01 1:43 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

 Whats really held OOo and will hold LO back is the lack of an
program such as outlook.

 Well, I disagree, but there is no way to prove one of us is right,

 There are one of three ways it can be done.

1) fork something like evolution which has all that done and integrate
into the LO suite

 Evolution is extremely buggy, *especially* on Windows, but yes, even
*nix... Yes, there are many people who run it without problems, but
there are far more who complain of constant crashes and bugs, even on
the stablest of systems (otherwise)...

 2) or install software that already exists in the open source arena.
Thunderbird+Lightning would be the best other choice here...not perfect
by any stretch, but the only viable FLOSS alternative on Windows at the
moment, at least that I am aware of...

 the problem with 2 is that it will greatly increase the download size,

would pose issues for people with slow bandwidth.

 Thunderbird+Lightning is not that big...

 Might be worth considering collaborating with Zimbra:
I found this interesting:
The guy was using "SuSE build of OOo 3.2".

I generally use SeaMonkey, but I've been experimenting with Zimbra
Desktop lately&   it seems to be an interesting alternative w/calendar,
Document, Briefcase, etc. And it's open source:
albeit with their own ZPL:

A tie-in with LibO&   Zimbra would be about as close as MS
(I'm not referring to Outlook Express) with a multiplatform environment.

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