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Hey thanks Bernhard,

I'll do just that. I've established contact and acquired a statement fo
support from the DocVerse folks, who have promised to move ahead on this
if there is interest in our (ODF) community, and will attempt to make a
connection between them and our LO developers on the devel list.

There's already a few threads w/considerable interest and support for
this on both the OOo and the DocVerse forum/discussion sites, and will
attempt to tie these in together and bring those interested parties into
the fray as well.

Thanks for your pointers and I'll move this thread on over to the devel
list. I hope that others will follow, although with most projects,
cluttering a devel list w/discussions not directly related to the coding
itself isn't where the developers would like such topics addressed.

Thanks again and I'll take up the discussion there. I already have a
sizeable user doc for this, although it based on the behaviour and look
that MS Office exhibits, yet a rewrite would be simple since it will
only take a couple of screenshots and very little change in the verbiage
considering the functionality would be primarily the same.

Once the plugin is beta'd then I'll seek guidance on how to dump it into
the LO user docs proj :)

Kindest regards,

Bradley.

On 12/07/2010 02:13 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
Hi Bradley, Phil, all

I'm not a developer, have never used Google DocVerse (and probably won't
during the next time - so I might be the best person to reply ;-)

Bradley D. Thornton schrieb:
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Hi Phil,

and thanks for asking :)

pls see comments below...

On 11/29/2010 07:11 AM, Phil Hibbs wrote:
Google Docs (and possibly other ODF implementations such as KOffice)
compatability is also an issue. Are there ongoing efforts to get
Google Docs to be more compatible with OOo/LibreOffice's
implementation of ODF?

I've been asking questions related to this for a while now w/o any
response, and didn't notice any responses to your post either!

As these kind of questions relate to development and ODF compatibility,
they must be replied by our developers.

But you probably know that most of them are volunteers working hard to
get LibO 3.3.0 in a state to be released (actually we have the first
Release Candidate for testing!).


I've asked, on two LO lists now, how the progress on the Google DocVerse
Plugin is coming along, yet they were met w/silence.

I don't know about the second list you mention - the best chance to get
a reply by any developer (and perhaps by someone involved in ODF
compatibility) is on our developer list: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org.


It may be that we have to wait for Google to finish and implement this
on their own since there doesn't appear to be any impetus, interest, or
the slightest amount of support from the LO staff, let alone interest by
the community - judging by the silence pertaining to both your post and
mine.

You will probably know as well, that there is no LibO staff at all, so
it's up to interested community members like you and me to work on the
topics we want to see implemented.

If you can't do any coding (like me), you might provide the contact
between LibO and Google developers - ask their questions on the
libreoffice@freedesktop list, invite them to join and help them by other
means to improve their plug-in.

I'm quite sure that you will get friendly and positive replies when you
ask for help instead of complaining that nobody else is interested or
able to do the work you want to be done.

Many people have been asking for this at the Docverse support site as
well as the OOo site for several months, and the only mention of
interest or support came from the Google DocVerse folks - NOT the ODF
camp!

So please feel as part of the "ODF camp" - even if ODF is much more than
just LibreOffice. As part of our community you're welcome to help to
improve LibO in any way you think it is suitable.

I don't know what needs to be done on our side - the ODF specifications
are open, extensions as well, if you know any more specific questions,
just ask them on the dev list.

Best regards

Bernhard


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