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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Name Change for LibreOffice Applications


Am Dienstag, den 07.12.2010, 21:23 +0100 schrieb Mirek M.:
2010/12/7 Marc Paré <marc@marcpare.com>

Le 2010-12-07 13:12, Christophe Strobbe a écrit :

 Hi,

At 18:50 7/12/2010, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Rainer Bielefeld schrieb:
[...] but switch from Sxxx.exe to Lxxx.exe (LWRITER.EXEm ...)

But if that might cause any trouble (for example Extensions
referencing to current names of .exe files) I would leave all as it is.


I agree. I am involved in the development of three OpenOffice.org
extensions: odt2daisy, odt2braille and a third one that will be released
in early 2011. odt2daisy and odt2braille (both available on SourceForge)
currently work with LibreOffice and I would like to preserve
compatibility.

With regard to the original question: are there any surveys or data that
confirm that the names for Writer, Calc and Impress need to be improved?
(I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case for Impress; I don't see
a problem for the others.)

Best regards,

Christophe



I don't believe that any of this has been discussed as the SC and most
communities see the move from OpenOffice to LibreOffice as a natural outcome
of moving to a "foundation" organisation. We had originally wanted to have
the use of the "OpenOffice" name.

I can tell you from personal experience, over many years, with using
OpenOffice in the classroom and with students at home, "Writer" and "Calc"
are easily recognisable; "Impress" is not.

We should perhaps consider that Oracle has decided to go on with OpenOffice
and is using the "Writer", "Calc" and "Impress" names. Will people associate
these names more with OpenOffice? Do these names conjure up the image of
OOo? I would suspect yes. I can already imagine that people will be asking
me if I am talking about OpenOffice or LibreOffice (when I use the module
names)?

We could also see this as somewhat of a standoff, do we own the moral or
even legal rights to use the "Writer", "Calc" and "Impress" names or does
OpenOffice?

If we are to change, the names should be very descriptive and concise. And,
as Christophe points out, the compatibility of extensions will have to be
considered.

Maybe now is not the time to change names? We could better plan for a later
release if we do?


I'd definitely wait a while before changing names. I mean, right now,
LibreOffice is basically the same piece of software as OpenOffice.org, just
with a few patches and different branding. Even the version numbers are the
same.
If LibreOffice is serious about really separating from the OOo codebase and
going its own way, then it's inevitable that, in the future, extensions for
one won't necessarily work with the other.

When the two are different enough, that'll be the time for changing
application names.

I am not very experienced with these things, but I think that it would
be better to have all name changes now than "sometime in the future". LO
is a Fork and I think it can have its own names.

I think from a user's view it is confusing that it is no more
OpenOffice, but LibreOffice they use. Then maybe they get used to that
name after some time and then there is another name change, even of the
applications they use every day.
So I think a name change should be done now and not after some releases.

Maybe we can keep the name "Writer", but I would change Impress and
Calc. When I used OpenOffice first, I was always confused by Calc and
Formula, I just wanted Excel. I always started Formula, because Calc
sounded like Calculator and that's not a spreadsheet (I am German btw).


Samuel M.



Just my thoughts.

Marc



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