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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Name Change for LibreOffice Applications


On 12/07/2010 02:23 PM, Mirek M. wrote:
2010/12/7 Marc Paré<marc@marcpare.com>

Le 2010-12-07 13:12, Christophe Strobbe a écrit :

  Hi,
At 18:50 7/12/2010, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Rainer Bielefeld schrieb:
[...] but switch from Sxxx.exe to Lxxx.exe (LWRITER.EXEm ...)
But if that might cause any trouble (for example Extensions
referencing to current names of .exe files) I would leave all as it is.

I agree. I am involved in the development of three OpenOffice.org
extensions: odt2daisy, odt2braille and a third one that will be released
in early 2011. odt2daisy and odt2braille (both available on SourceForge)
currently work with LibreOffice and I would like to preserve
compatibility.

With regard to the original question: are there any surveys or data that
confirm that the names for Writer, Calc and Impress need to be improved?
(I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case for Impress; I don't see
a problem for the others.)

Best regards,

Christophe



I don't believe that any of this has been discussed as the SC and most
communities see the move from OpenOffice to LibreOffice as a natural outcome
of moving to a "foundation" organisation. We had originally wanted to have
the use of the "OpenOffice" name.

I can tell you from personal experience, over many years, with using
OpenOffice in the classroom and with students at home, "Writer" and "Calc"
are easily recognisable; "Impress" is not.

We should perhaps consider that Oracle has decided to go on with OpenOffice
and is using the "Writer", "Calc" and "Impress" names. Will people associate
these names more with OpenOffice? Do these names conjure up the image of
OOo? I would suspect yes. I can already imagine that people will be asking
me if I am talking about OpenOffice or LibreOffice (when I use the module
names)?

We could also see this as somewhat of a standoff, do we own the moral or
even legal rights to use the "Writer", "Calc" and "Impress" names or does
OpenOffice?

If we are to change, the names should be very descriptive and concise. And,
as Christophe points out, the compatibility of extensions will have to be
considered.

Maybe now is not the time to change names? We could better plan for a later
release if we do?

I'd definitely wait a while before changing names. I mean, right now,
LibreOffice is basically the same piece of software as OpenOffice.org, just
with a few patches and different branding. Even the version numbers are the
same.
If LibreOffice is serious about really separating from the OOo codebase and
going its own way, then it's inevitable that, in the future, extensions for
one won't necessarily work with the other.

When the two are different enough, that'll be the time for changing
application names.

Just my thoughts.

Marc



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A name change would be beneficial for not only the point of view of differentiation and recognisability but also from a marketing and branding point of view. If a name change occurs purely subjective names should be avoided (such as Flow for the word app), but purely descriptive names could be equally bad.

On the point of extension compatibility, I am no programmer but I would think that simlinks could be created that would provide compatibility. Or the user side of things could be changed and leave the executables names the same as current.

$0.02

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