Re: [tdf-discuss] deb installer - have to manually modify link

Hi David, *,

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:39 PM, David Nelson <commerce@traduction.biz> wrote:
> Hi, :-)
>
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 20:58, Christian Lohmaier
> <lohmaier+ooofuture@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Stefan already pointed out that it is not a /test/ site. It is the
> > site under construction.
>
> It's a "test" site in the sense that work is in progress, and that
> nothing is stable right now. It's staging site.

I'm not happy with calling it a test site though.

> [...] But let's remember this: it takes 2 mouse clicks to
> unpublish a page, and 2 more to put another page online in its place.

Yes, I didn't meant to accuse you for destroying other peoples work,
for messing up the site, etc.

I just wanted to stress once again that the content on this site is
the content that will go live. There is no other content waiting
somewhere else.
And by calling it a "test" site some people might be put off and say
to themselves "I'd rather wait for the final site before providing
content".

> [...]
> Well I'm kind of puzzled that after weeks and weeks, scores of
> messages in the lists and various conference calls, there's very
> little concrete progress with producing content.

Yes, I'm also very disappointed at that, but I don't have an answer as
to why that is so :-(

I personally just did not have enough time to come up with content
myself, and I was hoping for the marketing team to come up with some
content... (and also with some artwork)

> Sorry, buddy, but I don't see any IA there that gives me a clue as to
> how to start writing copy without working at cross purposes with the
> intentions of.... whoever the heck is supposed to be coordinating this
> work.

Well, the IA is defining what content to put where on the site, right?
The site structure of the (back then) published pages did reflect
that. You have home, you got Contribute, you got FAQ, Support,
Download Contact in the main hierarchy, in the toptabs, and then a
couple of subpages in the individual areas.

As you notice yourself: Content is not contributed for whatever
reason. Thus it doesn't make sense to go into much more detail than
that.

> > Now as to calling it a testing site - I'm not sure whether it is just
> > poorly chosen wording, or a real misunderstanding on your part. Again
> > I'm puzzled where that impression comes from. I think I always
>
> Maybe the impression that it's a testing and development site comes
> from the domain name "test.libreoffice.org" Or does this seem a
> far-fetched understanding to you? ;-)

Of course not, but that makes it even more important to not refer to
it as a playground area.

> > [...]
> Thanks, that much I knew...

Yes, you might now. But I want all to know. Especially when the page
keeps getting called staging area, testing site, etc.

> > > +1 for getting the site online by the end of the week! ;-)
> >
> > I'd love to have it ready by then. So let's focus on one page at a time.
>
> OK, cool, now you're talking practical cooperation.

Sorry if you had the impression that I was trying to just pick on you,
just bashing around.

It is because just I don't know /why/ people don't add content. It
still is not clear to me what they are waiting for.

> > I propose the following, i.e. focus the work on individual pages this week:
> > * Home/Welcome page: Start now, continue till sunday (I'd like to have
> > some nice graphics there, some updated buttons)
>
> Sure, can do. I'll start thinking about copy to write. And I think I
> have a practical idea for the buttons that will fit in with the
> current look. Do you have the source files of those current buttons?
> Not a critical problem if not...

Source files: no, I only have the files as they appear on the site.
https://github.com/tdf/cms-themes/tree/master/tdf/images/buttons

> By the way, could you fix that problem about the missing CSS style
> sheet(s) I mentioned in the ohter thread?

Sorry, don't remember you mentioned a missing css style - either I
didn't read it yet or I missed it.

> You did say that if
> additional styles were needed then you'd fix the problem. So far you
> didn't even reply to that thread.

Please give more details - what list, what time, what subject?
I mean it was yesterday night/today morning when I wrote that,
apparently you're referring to a much older thread.

> Great, Christian. I'll be happy to cooperate and produce. Maybe we can
> actually make some headway and get this site operational before
> Christmas at least?

Yes, I'd love to see it ready for the user before Christmas (as
experience shows between the years nothing will be done because people
rather spend time with family and friends :-))

ciao
Christian

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