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On 16/10/10 20:20, Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-10-16 13:00, AG a écrit :
On 16/10/10 17:37, Kertesz Laszlo wrote:

On a general note, I wonder if it would be worthwhile for the packagers
of LibO to (a) include installation instruction documentation somewhere
on their site where these can be easil;y found and used, and (b) to
develop a script that will actually perform the installation. While I
may not be the sharpest crayon in the pack, I obviously have had a fair
bit of problems installing this onto my machine and to be honest going
through this degree of hassle may well put some people off from even
trying it in the first place.

Once again, Kertesz, my gratitude for your help and patience.

Best wishes


On the same note, I have also written up a detailed installation text file for .rpm installation that could also be used in an ReadmeRPM_KDE.txt file. This could be adapted and made a little more generic. Here it is below.


Just wanted to make note of the following. If you plan on installing the LibreOffice v. 3.3 beta on linux, here are some steps that could help you do an easier install if you are not used to using too much of the console and prompt.

Install process:

Intallation (based on a KDE desktop Mandriva 2010.1)



1. download LibreOffice from to your "downloads" folder into a folder called "LibreOffice"
2. open Dolphin
3. browse to the "LibreOffice" folder in the "downloads" folder
4. right-click on the LibreOffice file and choose extract archive here
5. once extracted double-click on folder "en-Us" and then "RPMS" and then "desktop-integration"
6. in Dolphin do F3 (this will split screen your window)
7. click in the right window once and click on the "UP" arrow in the main menu bar up-above in Dolphin 8. you will now have the left window "desktop-integration" and right "RPMS" windows open 9. in the left window drag the libreoffice3.3-mandriva-menus-3.3-XXXX.noarch.rpm file to the RPMS window and choose "Copy" ** 10. in Dolphin do F3 and use the "UP" arrow till you are back at the level where you see the "licenses", "readme", "RPMS" folders
11. right-click on folder RPMS and choose Action-Open Konsole
12. Konsole will now open with a $
13. in Konsole do $su  (this is super user mode)
14. type in your root password
15. in Konsole do #rpm -Uvih *rpm
16. wait till all the packages have installed

-- ** for step 9. -- Note that if you are on Freedesktop drag the corresponding file instead; if you are on RedHat drag the corresponding file instead; if you are on Suse drag corresponding file instead

You will now have the LibreOffice v. 3.3.0 BetaX installed and in your Mandriva menu. However, IF your KDE LibO menu items do not work. To setup your Mandriva menu, right click on the "Mandriva" start button (taskbar button with the star) and choose "Edit Menu". Find the LibreOffice icon (in Office) and click on it once; the right-hand window of the editing window will become active and choose "Command" -- click on the folder icon and browse to the Opt/libreoffice3 etc. till you find the right corresponding command file. Do the same for all of the other sets of the LibreOffice icons in the start menu.

Hope this helps those who wish to try the LibreOffice v.3.3. beta. Remember, that this is a beta and may have some hiccups along the way. The look and feel of the suite has still not been polished.





These seem pretty comprehensive and detailed.  Nicely done!

Tangentially, this issue gives me conflicting opinions: on one hand, and harking back to my Slackware 8.1 days the installation of software was inevitably a manual effort on GNU/Linux and one resolved the dependency hell as best as one could, following detailed instructions amended for one's own architecture and build.

The other part of me, now spoiled with apt and the point-n-click world reckons that these kinds of details should be passed upstream to developers to take care of. The use of software has become such a mainstream activity that the standards of expectation are, IMO, higher than they were back in the late 1990s/ early 2000s when one was expected to RTFM and to bone up on countless man pages.

The former option may well breed more astute and reliable users and maintainers, but the latter is more likely to garner popularity. If the objective is solid geek code (such as Theo de Raadt's OBSD), there is obviously nothing wrong about that but that is not likely to generate the user base for the world at large (which probably suits OBSD developers and users just fine). It comes down to what the objectives are.

Assuming that LibO is going for a broader take up and diverse user base who want to use the software as a tool rather than as a project in itself, then it would make sense for this kind of thing to be passed upstream so that notes such as your own do not need to be so detailed and (relatively) technical.

In the meantime, if I used Mandriva I would find those very useful notes.


PS (& OT): I haven't touched Mandriva since it was Mandrake. It was pretty cool, but Red Hat 7.2 was my starter and I found it such a joy to use at the time coming from MS Millennium and 98SE.

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