Re: [tdf-discuss] OOXML ECMA-376, transitionnal and strict

You can ask in the Microsoft open specifications forum:
https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-us/home?category=openspecifications

But, please, be polite, people there can have another perspective of 
this matter and expressions like MS$ doesn't help

The 'transitional' variant of ooxml is specified in Part 4 of ISO/IEC 
29500 so it's standard, it's supposed that the features of the 
transitional variant ease the transition from older formats, I'm not 
sure if there is a plan for making the strict variant the default in MS 
Office, in Office 2016 it's not yet

Best regards

El 26/04/16 a les 12:46, mjollnir66@laposte.net ha escrit:
> So.
>
> Is it correct to say that the Transitionnal OOXML format is not compliant with any international 
> standard or norm ? Neither ECMA, nor ISO, nor anything but MS$ itself.
>
> If so,
> Does this means that NO version of MS$ office (from 2010 to the actual) writes BY DEFAULT in a 
> standardized or normalised format.
> (cf. https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc179191%28v=office.16%29.aspx for default formats)
>
> Is anyone confident enough in his knowledge of OOXML to acknowledge this ?
> Maybe this place is not the best one to ask the question ?
> If so, would please somebody advice me the best place to post the question ?
>
>
> ----- Mail original -----
>
> De: "Florian Reisinger" <florei@libreoffice.org>
> À: mjollnir66@laposte.net, discuss@documentfoundation.org
> Envoyé: Mardi 26 Avril 2016 13:26:12
> Objet: Re: [tdf-discuss] OOXML ECMA-376, transitionnal and strict
>
>
>
> Short answer: Any release (2007,2010,2013,2016) has it's own transitional format. AFAIK
>
>
>
> < mjollnir66@laposte.net > schrieb am Di., 26. Apr. 2016, 10:13:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm a french user willing to get some answers about OOXML format.
> This post is already released on the fr.discuss mailing list.
>
> As you may know, something changing the game just happened in France.
> The second version of the Interoperability General Refenrential was just released.
> It demands all the public administrations (by law) to conform to certain file formats when the 
> exchanged from administration to administration or from a citizen to an administration and vice et 
> versa.
>
> ODF is recommended.
>
> OOXML strict is tolerated in some case.
> OOXML transitionnal is not.
> Binary older file formats are not either.
>
> Thus, it becomes very interresting to investigate what's behind OOXML.
>
> in this article :
> https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/case/complex-singularity-versus-openness
>
> 3 different OOXML formats are described :
> "There is the ECMA version (that’s the one MS Office 2007 writes, which was certified by ECMA 
> International). Then there is OOXML Transitional, which is relatively close to the ECMA version, and is the 
> format that all later versions to date write as default. Finally, there is OOXML Strict."
>
> In this MS$ tab :
> https://blogs.office.com/2012/08/13/new-file-format-options-in-the-new-office/#DR3YrKG0ymm0vmwB.97
> Only two OOXML formats are described : transitionnal and strict
>
> A very simple question to an OOXML specialist :
>
> Is transitionnal OOXML ECMA-376 compliant ?
>
> If not, is transitionnal OOXML compliant with any norm or standard ?
>
> Best regards and thanks in advance for any answer.
>
> M.



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