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Hello Marc,

Far from me is the idea of not letting this work out or even experiment.
But the discussion was started about users forums. Anything besides that
would require the interested teams to have been consulted before.  What I
fear at this stage is both confusion from new contributors (for instance
someone submitting a patch to a forum might never get picked up because
devs would not bother reading the forum) and exhaustion from the
moderators. Again what was discussed is forums for users. Let's see how
this plays out and open a discussion for a contributors forums later on.

Le 7 oct. 2012 16:07, "Marc Paré" <> a écrit :

Hi Florian and Charles,

Le 2012-10-07 09:19, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit :

I second not biting off more than we can chew
On Oct 7, 2012 2:08 PM, "Charles-H. Schulz"<

 At the risk of repeating myself, and to support Florian's views: we are
talking about a forum for users, not a migration, even a partial one, to
forums instead of mailing lists fro contributors. That was never
and so far I think we are only at the stage of opening something... Let's
not try to eat something bigger than we can chew...

(thank you for taking care of all this!)


Sadly, the proposal was put to the discussion list on September 27th and
also posts went to all of the mentioned mailing lists on the same day ...
ahem ... 10 days ago!

IHO, we are not biting more than we can chew, but offering an opportunity
for some mailing lists the medium of a forums, which, has been voiced in
some mailing lists. There is nothing wrong with having a healthy discussion
on this topic. Quite frankly if a mailing list decides to move to a forums,
they would surely have people to devote to their own moderation and this
would only be done by consensus. Resources would have very little impact on
the user forums section. If anything, it would allow for a visual bridge
for interested users to move to the contributor lists.

So, if you are worried about "eating bigger than we can chew", the offer
to open up forums was given, 5 co-coordinators offered their help, met and
organized a proposal, made the process transparent to the lists. If we had
thought that our proposal could not have been met our needs or was
unmanageable, then we would have not offered it. We had quite long and
lively discussions when we were forming our proposal and argued as many
ways that we could before offering it to the lists.

So, if there were limitations on what we were to offer from the BoD, there
were no indications of this. The reminder that we were given were to make
sure that everyone have their say in this, which is what is now happening.

I would say, now that the proposal has gone out, let them work themselves
through and everyone who would have wanted a say in this will have said it.
Whether a mailing list wishes to join, they would have to make ways to make
the forums work with their moderators. This would be their decision.



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