Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Forums Proposal

Christian,

I don't think my tone was inappropriate, but if it really was I am sorry
and it was not my intention. I still disagree with the approach of mixing
both contributors and users forums development this way, but you should not
infer that I am against contributors forums..to me it is a very valid
option for some type of contributions and teams, while not being an option
for others. My point is on the approach, not on the content of the proposal.

Best,

Charles.
Le 8 oct. 2012 03:27, "Christian Lohmaier" <
lohmaier+ooofuture@googlemail.com> a écrit :

> Hi Charles, *,
>
> On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Charles-H. Schulz
> <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
> > But the discussion was started about users forums. Anything besides that
> > would require the interested teams to have been consulted before.
>
> This thread (or these threads, as they have gone to various lists, the
> "interesting teams") /is/ the consulting *before*.
>
> As Marc correctly pointed out: This is part of the job he and the
> other coordinators did volunteer for. Get the initial forum structure
> sorted out, ask the affected people for their input.
>
> Your reply (or should I say the tone of your reply) was not
> appropriate in this scenario.
>
> > What I
> > fear at this stage is both confusion from new contributors (for instance
> > someone submitting a patch to a forum might never get picked up because
> > devs would not bother reading the forum) and exhaustion from the
> > moderators.
>
> Björn and others made it pretty clear from the very start that core
> development will continue to use the mailinglists, and I don't
> remember anyone questioning that, so the notification was just that. -
> A notification.
>
> No list will be forced to move to the forum.
>
> If people complain, then they complain and state: No, thanks.
>
> If you read the mails, you notice that this is one of the options that
> were offered.
>
> That now you tell "the Board wants a forum exclusively meant for
> user-support" I reply "WTF did nobody else from the board point that
> out earlier".
> Björn after all is Deputy on the Board, and his input early in the
> process was the basis for all this, as it was quite a reasonable thing
> to do.
>
> So while I don't question your intentions, I question your style in this
> regard.
>
> Yes, suggesting to move a list to the forum is controversial, Björn
> did already anticipate that. But that by itself doesn't make it a
> stupid idea that needs to be stopped at all cost.
>
> Just say: "No thanks, I prefer to keep <whatever> to use the
> mailinglists" and move on to the next topic.
>
> ciao
> Christian

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