[tdf-discuss] Re: New "LibreOffice Reader" Eliminates Need for "PDF Reader"

On 04/07/11 07:06, Ian Lynch wrote:
> On 3 July 2011 21:38, Robert Derman<robert.derman@pressenter.com>  wrote:
>
> > Ian Lynch wrote:
> >
> > > On 2 July 2011 23:22, Robert Derman<robert.derman@pressenter.com>  wrote
> > >
> > >
> > > > Keith Curtis wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > The problem with building a reader is that it would be about the same
> > > > > size
> > > > > as LibreOffice. OpenDocument is very different from PDF. For those who
> > > > > can't
> > > > > install LO, they probably can't install the reader either
> > > > Perhaps separating the modules of LO so that users could download and
> > > > install only the parts that they actually want, for instance I NEVER use
> > > > spreadsheets and probably never would use any part of the LO package
> > > > other
> > > > than Writer.  There is a small chance that I might use the database, but
> > > > the
> > > > rest of it never.
> > >
> > > The snag as I understand it is that there is a lot of code shared between
> > > components so separating them is not easy and would not result in as big a
> > > saving in "size" as one would think. I use Writer but I tend to use Google
> > > spreadsheets as I need to share them collaboratively. I use Inkscape
> > > rather
> > > than Draw simply because I like it better. I doubt I would ever use Base.
> > > Perhaps Impress on occasions. But I think Impress and Draw share a lot of
> > > code so its probably not going to save much having one without the other.
> > >
> > > I believe there is quite a bit of redundant code in OOo so would a better
> > > starting point not be to get rid of as much of this as possible?
> > As I understand this is being done by the LO developers and much more
> > effectively than OOo ever did.  As I understand doing a general clean-up of
> > the code was never a priority with Sun management, although it probably
> > should have been.
>
> Good to know.
>
> What I am wondering is if there aren't a lot of users like me who only ever
> > use Writer and are not likely to ever use any of the other modules.
>
>
> Probably.
>
>
> >   In any case, I think that it might be a good idea to do a survey of LO
> > users and find out how many only use one of the modules, and if so which
> > one.  If such a survey shows that a substantial number say 40% of users only
> > use Writer, then it might be a good idea to work to be able to offer a
> > Writer only package.  I know that if a Writer only package were available
> > from LibreOffice, that is what I would download and use.
>
>
> what if a Writer only package only save 30% of the code size, was quite a
> lot of work to achieve and then you were left with two sets of code to
> maintain? Would it be worth it? Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see
> independent components. I'd also like to see at least Writer on Smartphones
> and Tablets and I'd like to see a good web implementation of Writer. All
> about the resources and priorities in the end.
>
> To produce such a package I expect,  would mean stripping out ALL code not
> > used specifically by Writer.

Sorry to come in late on this thread, but there is an android ODF 
reader: 
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/productivity/odf-viewer_mnhl.html

It seems to have rather come to a halt, but there may be code there 
which could be massaged into a reader (?)

I'm in no way a developer, and have little experience with the reader, 
other than finding it can't open encrypted files. I suggested this to 
the developer, but he indicated he wasn't actually working on the 
project currently.

---

Russell




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