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Re: [tdf-discuss] New "LibreOffice Reader" Eliminates Need for "PDF Reader"


On 25 June 2011 10:02, timofonic timofonic <timofonic@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:42 AM, Nuno J. Silva <nunojsilva@ist.utl.pt>
wrote:
On 2011-06-24, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Marc Paré wrote:
if we were to promote a "quick and dirty"
"LibreOffice Reader", very much like the "Adobe Acrobat Reader", whose
sole purpose is to provide the ability to "read" ".odt" files, there
would be no need to carry .pdf formatted files.

Heh. :-) Don't use Adobe Reader as an example of a "reader", use
instead some other PDF reader with a reasonable memory and disk space
footprint. (Unless that's what you meant by "quick and dirty".)

This, however, won't work. Document fidelity is not the aim of ODT
files, while it is the aim of PDF files (example: font embedding, but
one could find many more). Replacing PDF by ODT is just not feasible due
to the formats themselves, not to the lack of an "ODF Reader".

Font embedding is an issue, it could render the viewer useless.

It's possible, at least, to make some room for "compatible documents",
by shipping a set of fonts with the viewer and announcing that as the
"standard fonts" for ODF viewer.

Unless there's some required feature of ODT that's not possible to
reproduce in PDF, I suggest keeping with PDF for now: it is designed for
portability and it's vectorial, so there's no loss.


Someone suggested djvu (DeJaVU). I like djvu, I use it and I and spread
the word about it, but IMHO it's main use is for scanned documents
(making it so entire books can fit in a floppy!).

Even if a pdf is larger than a djvu for the same document, if it was
directly exported to pdf, it's vectorial. Converting to djvu makes it
raster. IMHO that's a bad idea. YMMV.

Are you sure about that? If yes, maybe there should be a Version 28
with those improvements and more. Maybe DjVu format could get more
succesful if TDF adopts it and promotes it as OASIS OpenDocument
format (ODR?).

It's the missing leg for the OpenDocument file format collection, I think.

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What is the purpose of pdf? It's for putting documents on paper. If you
simply want to read a document on screen use a browser. There was a project
to develop a Firefox plugin through the OpenDocument Fellowship but I think
it has stalled.  I would rather encourage people to read screen based stuff
with a browser instead of having to download pdfs when the information is
rarely ever printed. If it needs to be LibO will produce a pdf to do it.
Seems to me that a browser plugin is a lot simpler task and a lot more
useful. Get Google to sponsor it for Chrome.
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